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01-30-2011, 12:48 AM #1
Why are my shaves only getting worse?
Hi all,
I'm new to shaving with a straight (obviously). It seems like every time I shave, the razor pulls more and more on my hair. In the past this would have meant that my cartridge razor was dull and I would have thrown it away. Now I assume it means that my edge is dull. I got this razor from a member here and it came to me wonderfully sharp. I have shaved with it about 12 times and it seems like I bleed more and get more razor burn every time. I started out stropping it around 30 times until I read that this wasn't enough so now I strop before and after my shaves sometimes as much as 70 times on a poor man's strop. Seems like it just keeps getting worse though. I know that it isn't ready to be honed yet so it must be my stropping or else my shaving technique? Even if I have a good lather worked up the blade goes right over the hair leaving significant stubble which makes me shave the same spot multiple times which gives me razor burn around the chin especially. I try to strop evenly and also try to keep the blade flat. My strop is a little thin so I am forced to make a "x" pattern which is kind of hard... Is it possible that my stropping is only making it more dull? If so, can I bring it back? Help!
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01-30-2011, 12:58 AM #2
If your razor keeps getting duller and duller, that means it's your stropping technique. Keep the strop as flat as you can, and use very light pressure with the razor. Make sure you aren't lifting the spine.
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01-30-2011, 01:15 AM #3
It might be the "poor man's strop". When I originally purchased all my shaving gear, about 7 years ago, I spent the big bucks on a high quality strop. To me that made the most logical sense when it came to expenses for straight razor shaving.
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01-30-2011, 01:18 AM #4
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01-30-2011, 01:33 AM #5
It sounds to me like you have degraded a quality edge with a substandard strop and, to compensate for declining keenness, started to press harder. If that's even close to what happened you should back up and revisit your strop and stropping technique.
You might think that it's too early to have the razor honed, and you may be right, but it's time to do something with it. If not re-honing, then a touch up with a finishing hone or a pasted/sprayed strop will be in order. Which brings you back to stropping.....
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01-30-2011, 01:33 AM #6
One of the most baffling recommendations I see is for people to get a cheap, "beginner" strop. I'm with Alan 100% on this one.
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01-30-2011, 03:05 AM #7
While I may agree with the ideology, we must remember that beginners may not have the most solid stropping technique (such as deflecting the strop at the edge rather than the spine) and may even wind up damaging the strop with a too-sudden stop or some other n00b mistake. Better to bugger up a $30 strop and move to a better strop when the issues have all been ironed out. I know that had I made some of my early errors in a beautiful $100 strop, I'd be ready to barf. However, now that I've got a decent handle on technique, it is time to consider upgrading to some English bridle leather.
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01-30-2011, 04:42 AM #8
+1 not cheap.
Inexpensive is OK, cheap is not.
One of the sponsors has a top of the line
strop and also sells replacement leather and canvas
for a very reasonable price.
Since a strop is used each day for each shave
this is the one item to not go cheap on.
If the budget is tight and you can hand pick leather at
the likes of Tandy leather go for it if you have a good eye.
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01-30-2011, 03:29 AM #9
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Thanked: 6When you say poor mans strop I'm assuming you ean the one from whipped dog. If that's the case, did you pretreat it as reccomended? I ask because I had the same issue and in my excitement to begin all shings shave related, I ignored the instructions. I then went through what you are going through. After I massaged in some lather and rubbed it with a coffe mug god knows how long, I took the razor across it about 40 laps and it was good to go again. While I usually go by the "get what you pay for" adage, it doesn't always mean that cheap price is cheap quality, but it may just need some love to get it right. People do that all the time with razors on here after all...pick it up cheap, polish, re-scale and presto! And as others have said, why drop a bunch of money on a strop you will inevitabley mess up?
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01-30-2011, 05:18 AM #10
You would be right - it is a whipped dog "poor mans strop." You are also right that I "ignored the instructions." In fact, I don't even remember any... Not the first time this has happened either...
When you say that you "massaged in some lather" and "rubbed it with a coffee mug" do you literally mean you rubbed it with some soap lather? Or do you mean a kind of leather conditioner? And when you say you "rubbed it with a mug" do you mean compressed the leather with a cylinder - kind of like a steamroller motion? Sorry, I'm not trying to be dense - I just want to get to where you are... Thanks.