and to add to deighaingeal... don't skimp on the strop.. that is definitely one thin you do NOT want to skimp on.. there are a few posts here where a few people cut some corners (aaaahhheeemmm.. Yes I am a part of this group..) by getting and Ebay special to save a few bucks.. Only to have to turn around and buy the decent one... Plenty of reviews on the too, just gotta read through them..