I agree with aespo's advice on the Norton honing set up. I just invested in a Norton 4K/8K myself, and thought I was being thrifty just buying the one combo stone. Then when I went to hone I discovered that my stone wasn't flat and the edges of the stone needed to be rounded, so I dropped another $70 on a flattening stone. Then I found out that the two razors I was working on had double bevels, and I needed to totally reset the bevels. I was able to borrow a stone for that purpose from my uncle, who is a woodcarver, but in hindsight I would have been much better spending the extra money up front for the combo set. It is well worth your money if you want to hone.