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Thread: To straight razor or not to?
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10-20-2012, 11:43 AM #11
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Thanked: 983Alright, why do you hate shaving? Have you introduced the most basic of things to improve your shave with a mach 3? I'm talking about a nice shave cream/soap (Take your pick Cella, Proraso, Taylors, Truefitt and Hill etc etc) and a shaving brush. Use of good pre-shave prep might make all the difference to your shaves with a mach 3 and your outlay is just for a brush and a nice shave cream or shave soap to use with it. If you're ready to just dive on in, and are properly aware of the learning curve, then by all means get straight into using a cut-throat. If you want to just ease into it. start off with a brush and soap, later introduce a DE and try a few blades to find what works for you there, and then when you want to up skill again, move into the real deal then. Just my thoughts fo ryou.
Mick
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10-22-2012, 06:52 PM #12
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Thanked: 0Thanks for all of your responses! After much thought (especially after reading Bobh's and Charles' comments), and consulting with my girlfriend, I decided to go for a DE razor.
Some of the reasons I really hate shaving is for the waste it creates (foam and plastic cartridges) or with the electric, I find it pretty painful (no matter what the length of my hair is), loud (so I want to get it over with as soon as I can). I think the DE route will be a good starting place for me, I've ordered a mug, stand, brush and Merkur Futur razor, as well as an assorted blades package. Right now I'm only shaving once a week because it hurts so bad (I used to only shave once every two weeks). I'm sure all of this preparation will help.
What's a good natural soap I should start with?
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10-22-2012, 07:10 PM #13
Hi
Welcome to SRP.
Your question is a lot like joining a wine forum, and ask if you should drink wine.
What do you think the answer will be?
Anyway - welcome and enjoy straight razor shaving.
"Cheap Tools Is Misplaced Economy. Always buy the best and highest grade of razors, hones and strops. Then you are prepared to do the best work."
- Napoleon LeBlanc, 1895
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10-22-2012, 07:11 PM #14
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Thanked: 8Soaps and creams are as complex and the "how to shave" question in the first place. I personally would go with Proraso cream in a tube which has a very light sandalwood scent. I'm sure you'll get a lot more opinions here and it's hard to go completely wrong. I think the creams give a superior lather with a little less variability. You will need to decide, eventually, between creams and soaps and scents. Or, you can have several of each!
I think you'll enjoy the DE experience. Really, it's the entire shaving experience that makes this approach so enjoyable. I am 65 and have been shaving full time w/ a straight for 4 months after several, aborted trials over the past 30 years. This site made it possible to be successful this time and I can't recommend reading it and taking the advice strongly enough. I never "hated" shaving -- used an electric for most of my 50 years of shaving. It was just a chore to do along with brushing my teeth. Since going to a straight I look forward to the the adventure every day. I have a couple of DEs that I bought for those days when I just can't make the straight razor do the job but, to tell the truth, I have yet to use one of them for a full shave. Just haven't needed to although there is sure nothing wrong with the DE and I know I'll get around to it at some point.
Enjoy! You do need to be willing to take your time because the prep is half the battle -- and the fun.
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10-22-2012, 10:33 PM #15
Razo rock makes great soft soaps (croaps). They lather easy, and are less expensive than alot of the others, and come in its own container. Remember to use almost no pressure at all with the DE, and short strokes, don't try to mow down your whiskers in one fell swoop like a Mach 3, if you do it's gonna look like a zombie movie in your bathroom!
Mastering implies there is nothing more for you to learn of something... I prefer proficient enough to not totally screw it up.
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10-22-2012, 11:03 PM #16
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Thanked: 0Re: To straight razor or not to?
Awesome, thanks. I think I'm going to watch a video or how-to on using a DE. Also, it turns out that they sell Geo F. Trumper, so I'm going to see if they have the coconut shaving cream (not soap).
I'm not really sure if this is a good starting point, but it's easily available for me is there anything I should know about this ?
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10-23-2012, 01:31 AM #17
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Thanked: 8Excellent choice! I have a tube of the Geo F. Trumper coconut cream and really like it. It lathers well and I am partial to the scent. One of the first creams I tried as well.
You'll see in the Wiki on lathering that you start (as I recall) with very little water and add some later. I soak my brush in the bowl I later use to whip up the lather. I dump out the water and start developing the lather after putting a stripe of cream on the brush. I tried creating the lather without adding more water later and found it to be dry and sparse. I especially noted this with the GFT coconut. Next time around I added a few drops (about a teaspoon) of water mid-process and got GREAT lather with the coconut.
You're gonna have a blast!
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10-23-2012, 09:05 AM #18
I was 50 and I can't even recall shaving before then other than reaching for an old blue plastic razor from a drawer and scraping whiskers off my face for the last 35 years. Other than that it was very uneventful and somewhat of a nuisance if I recall. Then I found a shaving forum. Being quite nostalgic myself, it didn't take long for me to start researching and buying my first DE. Then another and another and so on. The soaps, creames and blades were collected in the same fashion. At 53 I started lurking on the SRP sight and sort of fell into the river, if you hang out long enough here you will also fall in... Bought my first straight razor this year and just recently bought a new Dovo Bismark from SRD. I love it! For the past 3 years I feel like I am stealing time back from the "man" whoever that might be and spending time on myself which is a good thing. There's nothing like putting hot towels on your face and relaxing. Good luck on your adventure. Studying and learning is the best part of the shaving scene. I would have never have thought that I could look at a DE and tell you in most cases its make and year. I have turned into a shaving nerd. Best of luck on your journey.
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10-23-2012, 12:37 PM #19
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Thanked: 275The Futur is an aggressive razor -- lots of blade exposure. Start with the _minimum_ setting -- 0 or 1 -- and use a very light touch, much lighter than you're used to. Adjust the razor up from there, slowly, if you want to. A suggestion:
. . . It's more comfortable to take more passes at a lower setting, than to take fewer passes at a higher setting.
Razor burn is _not_ your friend!
Some other people have said that the minimum setting on the Futur is more aggresssive than an EJ DE89, which is my normal DE razor.
I don't know what a "natural" soap is. I started with Proraso, and now rotate between:
. . . Proraso cream
. . . Proraso soap
. . . Mitchell's Wool Fat
. . . Tabac
. . . Truefitt and Hill soap (a new favorite).
Any of those will make good lather. The MWF and Tabac are (I think) old formulations, without strong scents. Choice of soap is very individual.
. Charles. . . . . Mindful shaving, for a better world.
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10-24-2012, 07:02 AM #20
I've learned this with many things in life... if your hesitant, or HOPE you wont mess up... you'll make the mistake.. if you believe in your ability and arent shaky handed, i'm sure you can do it