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    Gents, I am a bit pleased with myself. I am new to straight razors, and still have not made it to a full shave. I get nervous, or cut myself and jump back to my trusty DE.

    I had a lesson on how to shave from a Turkish barber in Dublin (while visiting) don't know if I should mention his name or web site - but I would like to do so.... anyway.....

    He gave me a shavette and some blades and a spray bottle of Jaxa Limon Kolonyasi. So I gave it a shot, and cut myself. Kept at it and got better. Then when in Germany I picked up a straight It's a Bob Klass and from Solingen and has two cranes on the blade.

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Size:  60.4 KB The owner of the store honed it, yet it did not seem as sharp as I would have liked. So I decided to try to hone. Being somewhat smart, I went out to the local antique shops and have picked up some inexpensive razors that looked in fairly good condition. Purchased aThuringen hone, lapped it. Picked a razor and went to town on trying to hone. Not much luck, picked up a Franz Swaty (sp?) barbers hone, lapped some more on the Thuringen stone and taped the spine. Then I tried the Thuringen again, the barber hone, the Thuringen, and stroped. Well, the antique store razor would shave me, yes it pulled a bit, yes it was rough, BUT I did not cut myself. So I tried one cheek and one side of my neck, then back to the DE to finish. Could I have shaved my entire faced with this razor? Perhaps, but why push my luck. Lap some more, practice honeing some more, and keep going slowly on the shave.

    At some point I will try to use the Swaty or the Thuringen on my Klass but not just yet. I have a nice German blade that is in really nice shape from an antique store that I'll give a test with before I go to my more expensive new razor.

    But all in all I am rather pleased with myself on two fronts.
    1. Learning a bit about honeing, and starting to get an edge that just might lead to me being able to hone my own at some point.
    2. Getting a partial shave without a cut or nick with a straight razor that I honed myself. I will be the first to admit it was not a BBS but it's a start :-)
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    Yeah, this would qualify for the honing section. The razor you bought from the antique store was rough b/c you probably didn't have a good bevel set on the blade which left it shiny and dull. You could set a bevel on a thuringen or the swaty, but will take a while. I would suggest getting a king 1k for cheap and watch some of gssixgun's youtube vids, he has one on one stone honing w/ a thuringen, and go from there. Just my $0.02, but w/ a dedicated bevel setter, then your swaty or thuringen it will save you a good amount of time versus trying to set a bevel, refine, and polish the blade on a high grit stone like those.
    Mastering implies there is nothing more for you to learn of something... I prefer proficient enough to not totally screw it up.

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    Agreed honeing would probably be a good fit for the post. My reason for posting in beginners is I am new to straights, yet to get a full shave. Yet, I am trying my hand at more than one thing. Honeing, looking for vintage razors and trying my hand at hones.

    I guess my point is you can be new on several fronts and making gradual progress on all of them.

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    LOL jump in head first I say!
    Mastering implies there is nothing more for you to learn of something... I prefer proficient enough to not totally screw it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aodenkou View Post
    I guess my point is you can be new on several fronts and making gradual progress on all of them.
    I agree that you can go down this route (as many of us have), however, you can make faster progress by concentrating on one thing at a time.

    Congratulations on your successes so far.......
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    Hang on and enjoy the ride...

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    Gents, I agree I am jumping in with both feet. But, shaving, honeing, face prep, razors, etc are different skill sets. Yes, they related in that all can be used to get a shave, but they are different enough that I am not going to confuse one for the other.

    My thought is the more I understand about one the more I understand other related things.

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    I am right about where you are right now. Isnt it fun?!?! I finally got two old antique shop razors sharp enough to shave yesterday and was quite pleased. No nicks, no pulling, nothing. I still do think I could get a little better edge on them and I don't know how long they will hold but I was able to complete a shave. The videos from Lynn and gssixgun were a must for me. So much info in those videos and I could not have done it without them. Good job!!

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