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    Default C&E Super Badger

    I have heard that one of the best beginner brushes is the C&E Best Badger. However, I am definately torn between buying this one and a C&E silvertip. I have a chance to get the silvertip for $50 (only $15 more).

    Good buy?

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    I don't know about the C&E Silvertip, but my Thomas Anthony Silvertip is a definite cut above my Edwin Jagger Best Badger in softness. I don't think it's quite as good to whip up a lather from soaps though. I generally use creams.

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    I just got my Super Badger Brush from C&E. I haven't had a chance to test it yet, I will let you know. What I can tell you is that it is very dense and supple and soft. I like the soft part, though I could see how it would mean more work building a good lather with it. I don't know much in the way of brushes, but it looks like all the good ones I've seen guys taking pictures of while testing them out. I'm sure that there are better, but I can't see buying a brush over a hundred bucks when I probably wouldn't know the difference. The only reason I didn't go for their best badger brush was because I knew I wanted something in the upper middle of the spectrum. Anyway, It seems good to me.

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    Just went and tested the brush, so I can give you a better review now. Ok, now Im still new so I really don't know exactly what to look for in a good brush. So I can only tell you what I have read and been told. I don't know how much you have already looked into it, but if your interested then this video on youtube helped me to get an idea of what I wanted. All of Mantic's videos are good as far as the wet shaving part of things go. I believe he is a regular member at the Badger & Blade forums. He has quite a few videos on youtube but here is the one on brushes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEX7BnD595A


    Anyway I tried my brush with three different soaps. The first was C&E's sandalwood glycerin based soap. This was the best experience for me yet as far as a lather goes. The brush quickly built up enough lather in the dish of soap and after transferring to my mug I quickly had a nice full and glossy lather. It coated the full length of my arm well and there was still a ton of lather left for a second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh pass haha. The soap was really good too if you were wondering. Refreshing though admittedly, maybe a tad on the feminine side of scents, still I enjoyed it.

    The next soap was the Williams shaving mug soap. I had a harder time getting a good lather off of it, but I blame the soap and not the brush. I have been having a hard time with William's from day one, but for me I figured it was a good control to base the performance of the other soaps and my new brush off. Anyway, there was still a great improvement with the new brush, though the soap still didn't compare to the C&E in my opinion. The lather was definitely thick enough to shave with, but didn't feel like it would cushion as well. Anyway, the brush still did well as far as I am concerned.

    Next was the Proraso cream. Got a good lather with the proraso, though it will take some getting used to with the new brush. The Super badger holds a substantially greater amount of water then my burma ever did, so I am going to have to play with the cream to get the right water balance. Anyway after playing around with the ratio a bit in my cup, I was able to get a good lather going, and though was still not quite as good as the C&E Sandelwood, it was still better than the William's. Again, I think the brush will work great with the cream as soon as I figure out my water ratio a bit more.

    Size: I was hoping that the size of this brush would be good (the site didn't really give me much info other than the photo). I ordered a moss scuttle and I had read that you needed a decent size brush for it to work best. Well the size exceeded my hopes and dreams as it is quite large. I measure the knot diameter as best I could. I would say it is 26 mm give or take. This in the upper end of the size category, as the largest knots ive seen online were 30mm. Keep in mind that this measurement is taken at the base of the knot, where it meets the handle. You will need a decent size mug for this brush. Mine is really almost to small for it. I could see using a cereal bow with it actually. Just to give yourself enough room to work you lather. Anyway its a brush made for Texas. Moving on!

    Feel: The brush is very dense which is good, as it holds quite a large amount of water. I would say it at least doubled in weight after I had it loaded with water. It hold the water well too, very little dripping. From what I understand this is a good thing. Anyway it is full and feels very nice when rubbed up against the skin, much nicer than the boar brush I have.

    Handle: The hand is quite smooth, which for me is a downfall, but most brushes are going to be smooth. I just favor function over form and would like something a bit easier to hold onto while I'm pumping the damn thing in and out of my mug. Not that it's hard to hold onto. Its just a little on the smooth side. Maybe I'm just strange. Anyway it's not exactly anything to look at, but it's certainly isn't ugly either. Just plain and simple which is good.

    I have to say, though I don't have much to go by, that I like the brush a lot. It is big though so keep that in mind.

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    Thanks Matt. I appreciate it. If you do try it out, please let me know.

    I see above...going to read it now - thanks.
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    That's great information Matt, thanks. I'm a real greenhorn when it comes to brushes since I only ever bought two and am super happy with both. I think I'll buy one more, a Pure badger with ebony handle, but that'll happen when I find a job.

    Interestingly enough, the soap that you say has given you the best experience so far still has some detractors around here and I bet you'll see why when your TGQ stuff arrives. I just ordered a 4oz jar of Gentlemen's Oak & Moss Shaving Cream myself.

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    Yeah, I was hoping for that. I ordered the Sandalwood from C&E just to try. I got the Proraso just because I couldn't handle another shave with the William's, though I do like menthol. Anyway, most of the soaps I have used I know aren't really that high on the chart as far as quality. I am really looking forward to Colleen's and Mama's Bears soaps. I figure that if I can enjoy the proraso and C&E sandalwood, then I am in for a real experience with these fine, handmade soaps. Can't wait, especially as I seem to have a soap fetish . I really enjoy trying out new stuff.
    Colleen and Mama Bear, I can be a guinea pig if you two need one, though I am sure you both already have a few haha. I would love to try anything your playing around with and give you feedback. I don't have a whole lot of experience, but I could become a real soap connoisseur haha.

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