Thread: "Best" Brush for $100

Originally Posted by Badgister

The badger hair all comes from China, but as I understand, the high end brush makers such as Simpsons, Thater etc. knot the hairs themselves. So unless you are knotting the badger hair yourself, I would assume that most if not all artisanally made brushes are made with badger knots from China.

That is, unfortunately, correct. Additionally, there is the issue of badger blondes. Seriously. An incredible amount of badger knots from China direct have been dyed blonde to increase the price. If you think you can get a real two band knot for less than $50, think again. I happen to have followed the purchase price for Chinese badger hair in high quality, and it has risen dramatically over the last three years.

And peroxide does funny things to hairs. For example, it makes them a lot softer. But if you take a Chinese import "super $INSERTFAVOURITEBUZZWORDS high $WHATEVER $AREAWHEREHUNTINGHASBEENILLEGALFORYEARS" knot and compare it to a Thäter, Shavemac or Rooney, you will notice the difference.

And since longevity was an issue, one should keep in mind that chemically treating hairs with peroxide makes them brittle, too. Just like water that is too hot, or aggressive cleaners like Borax.

Get a Thäter, and it will last for decades if properly treated. Thäter have been in business for more than a century, and I have seen some of their brushes from the 80s and 90s. Still in good shape. My go-to brush, a 26mm two-band fan (thank you kindly, Lynn) has seen almost daily use for six years now without any noticeable effect.

I don't mind the vintage thing, but unfortunately I don't have the tools or time to work on a vintage brush and make it a new brush. Custom brushes tend to look really cool, but to be honest I'm least concern with the looks of the brush. I'd say that the $100 I'm willing to spend is mainly for longevity. If I'm going to spend good money (for my budget) on a brush, it'll be the only brush I use and I want it to work great for a long, long time.

Thanks for all the help.

Simpson Colonel X2L in Best Badger. This brush is a MacGyver....does everything, well made and reasonably priced. End game....

I guess its been said but the brushes that you can have made for you will be as good as anything you can buy from the big names ,, for instance pixelfixed brushes with exotic woods or ivory, beats plastic any day and he uses the best knots he can buy, or walleyeman brushes , some really top notch stuff ,, and someone who will make it the way you want it , very personal and someone you can talk to if there is a problem ,, and for not much more money than you want to spend , there are some great manufactures out there ,, just think about custom also ,, tc

Originally Posted by tcrideshd

I guess its been said but the brushes that you can have made for you will be as good as anything you can buy from the big names ,, for instance pixelfixed brushes with exotic woods or ivory, beats plastic any day and he uses the best knots he can buy, or walleyeman brushes , some really top notch stuff ,, and someone who will make it the way you want it , very personal and someone you can talk to if there is a problem ,, and for not much more money than you want to spend , there are some great manufactures out there ,, just think about custom also ,, tc

I really, really like my walleyeman brass/acrylic with two band bulb. It is a very good brush.

Interesting designs. But does he tie his own knots? Or does he use the aforementioned Chinese import knots? In which case - all sensitivities about slave labour set aside - nothing whatsoever can be said about their longevity. Or does anyone have any tangible proof that these knots will survive for a reasonable amount of time?

And either way, how exactly do they compare to a Thäter? My reason for asking is that when I recommend a product over another, I personally have always tried both. Would not make much sense to compare them otherwise, would it?

Have fun,
Robin

I've always preferred function over fashion.

Originally Posted by RobinK

Interesting designs. But does he tie his own knots? Or does he use the aforementioned Chinese import knots? In which case - all sensitivities about slave labour set aside - nothing whatsoever can be said about their longevity. Or does anyone have any tangible proof that these knots will survive for a reasonable amount of time?

And either way, how exactly do they compare to a Thäter? My reason for asking is that when I recommend a product over another, I personally have always tried both. Would not make much sense to compare them otherwise, would it?

Have fun,
Robin

Well, I have Brushes with TGN Knots that up until two years ago when I retired were used every day,today they are in perfect condition.

One other thing Robin,what are your Qualifications for making Recomendations for anything shave related??

Originally Posted by RobinK

Interesting designs. But does he tie his own knots? Or does he use the aforementioned Chinese import knots? In which case - all sensitivities about slave labour set aside - nothing whatsoever can be said about their longevity. Or does anyone have any tangible proof that these knots will survive for a reasonable amount of time?

And either way, how exactly do they compare to a Thäter? My reason for asking is that when I recommend a product over another, I personally have always tried both. Would not make much sense to compare them otherwise, would it?

Have fun,
Robin

Why don't you ask the man himself? He's a good standing member here. Have you tried any of his products? The only reason I ask is, a famous person once said, "I recommend a product over another, I personally have always tried both."

I just looked through my collection of brushes; many customs made by several members here. Also a few made by established English companies. All seem to perform quite well. Before I cast any doubt on Thater brushes or shower them with praise, as you have; I will commit to purchasing one the first week of December. I'll even let you choose the brush Robin, pick an American based company , please. I don't really care about the price, I just want it to arrive.

How long should I review this Thater brush Robin?

Have fun,
John