Simpson Polo 8.... 4-5 years old.....just saw this crack....it has NEVAH hit the floor...figured I'd post it here for ....to see if its happened to anyone....the mods can move this post,if it's in the wrong place. Thanks Attachment 276753
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Simpson Polo 8.... 4-5 years old.....just saw this crack....it has NEVAH hit the floor...figured I'd post it here for ....to see if its happened to anyone....the mods can move this post,if it's in the wrong place. Thanks Attachment 276753
is there little hands in the house? or do you use a scuttle? now the vertical crack/split looks a lot like a seam, very clean, but if it truly hasn't been dropped(by others that aren't telling you) that's surely strange Tc
No little kids left.....I do use a scuttle....I do soak my brush in warm water...the whole knot is under water....I shave every other day or every 3 days....I store the brush up side down on a wall mounted brush holder.....my 200.00 brush was well taken care of.Attachment 276782
The knot is still snug ...no play.
About the only way something like that could happen is if it's subjected to heat and the base of the knot expanded. Otherwise it received some kind of trauma.
Of course if Mr Holmes was here he would say that chip in the scuttle was involved in the mystery.
With that much of a gap in the vertical split and the knot is still snug the knot must have swelled over time to cause the cracking.
If you like the knot have it removed and installed in a new handle. I am sure someone can make you a copy of the Polo handle to put the knot in.
If you have to soak a brush before lathering with it you might want to consider only letting the tip of the knot soak. Personally, I do not soak any of my brushes but just do a quick swish of the tips in water, shake and load the brush with soap. So far, touch wood, no problems.
Bob
Same as BobH, I have had a couple new and older brushes split the ferrule by soaking in over-hot water. I also had a favorite Omega of years that spit out its knot from the hot water soak.
Some swelling will occur and that was figured in by the makers, A special knot in a expensive handle may have been placed into a metal cup, or tube which can take a lot of swelling. The thickens of the ferrule around the knot and its material can make a big difference. A re-knotted handle may have more swelling than the original smaller knot caused. So there is less material hoop strength of the thinner material to contain the pressure.
JMO
~Richard
Warm water in the scuttle for the brush...as iam aware of hot water might damage the hairs....and hot tap water for the inner walls of the scuttle......Just didn't expect this from a high end brush ( high end for me ).
Sorry to see that, Bruv. I am of the opinion it is a result of too much hot water too many times.
Either the knot was swollen, the handle shrunk...Or both?
I am like Bob above. I dip into the water a bit at a time. Never soak. If I do, it is 4 or 5 MM at most and not very long. I like the hair shafts dry and with character. Soaking makes mine floppy.
Hate to see that. Maybe that you can get that knot into a new handle?
Attachment 276911.All fixed....She's like New again....
Excellent!
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Attachment 276914..it's like watching a crack in your windshield....just keeps on going..
Happened to my Classic 1 a few years ago. No trauma, no hot water; knot simply swelled and cracked the handle like yours. Knot was still tight so I slowly filled the crack with CA glue, maybe 10 or 12 thin applications. Still my favorite brush.
Like the Energizer Bunny....Keeps on going and going.....:eek:
Just tossing out my thoughts and have never had one of these and cannot find quickly what the material of the handle is.
It could be a cold shut in the molding of the handle rearing its ugly head.:thinking:
You may want to consider, at least, salvaging the knot as I am sure you can either send it to a brush artisan to turn you another handle and set this knot into it, or order a handle off of ebay or etsy and set the knot into it, yourself.
Good luck. :)
Other alternative is to email Mark I believe at Simpson and ask him about putting the knot into a new handle, he's done it for customers before and might be cheaper than just buying a new one.....
Simpson did have a batch of bad handle material, but it was quite some time ago if I recall correctly. It may be old stock from that era that you purchased 5 years ago.
Drop Simpson a line, I would be very surprised if they did not make it right. That should NOT happen.
Regards
Christian
Attachment 278798...Well.......this morning it gave up the ghost....sent some pics to Mark @ Simpson across the Pond.....will keep yah posted
Well from that pic I don't see any obvious reason for it to blow out. I bet they will help you, Tc
Well....... got an email from Mark @ Simpson this morning......and said it must have been dropped on a tile floor or porcelain sink and was not a manufacturer defect ....and have a NICE DAY. So I guess iam a liar.............If I dropped the brush ,I'd own it ,period. Iam not one of "those " people.
That is disappointing. I am not sure that you could tell from a photo whether or not it was a manufacturing defect. As you say you didn't drop it and there is nobody else that could have. Also the crack appeared a good while ago and the whole thing just came off recently.
I wondered if the knot could have somehow been moving inside the handle putting stress on it whilst you were lathering, but it beats me really.
I am sorry to hear that you have not had a positive response though.
Sorry to hear what the reply was. I guess you could have one of the brush makers do up a Polo handle and reset the knot into it.
Bob
Such service saddens me. I have had brushes do the wedge out due to the knot accumulating enough soap in the knot that the hairs swelling with the hot water also swell the soap. That may cause a fracture over time.
Still poor service!
~Richard
Could you cut the opening out in the broken piece just a bit, then CA the pieces back together? No need to toss a good brush.
So much for expecting supportive customer service from a boutique brand. :shrug:
Have to use the 6 year old Thater ...seeing the Simpson is on the IR ....(injured reserve)Attachment 279102
Duct Tape!!!!!!! That fixes everything.
:roflmao
Very sorry to hear the response you received. I was also hoping to hear better. I've followed the thread to see the outcome.
Sorry about your brush. :( But looking for a positive aspect we all know what the inside of a Simpson brush looks like now.
I don't know what happened, but from the sellers side of the picture, it does look like a dropped brush. But if you Said it didn't then it has to be a swelling issue, but I know one thing , it s a shame because it's a great brush and like Bob said I'd, send it to one of our great brush makers and have them duplicate the handle and reset that knot. Tc
After looking at the picture again I find it interesting that there are two flat spots 180' from each other. Does that indicate that these are made from gluing 2 pieces together or could that be a parting line from the mold?
The rest of the crack looks like what I would expect if you hit it with a hammer but those appear perfect, straight, and opposite from each other.
Seeing that I own a body shop.....I have plenty of "Problem Plastic " repair adhesive...Going with the Fusor 142 with a spray of the surface modifier.....and a clamp....
Well, that is a shame to hear the response from Mark.
I am looking forward to seeing what the brush looks like after you attempt to repair it. Good luck. :)
Ended up using a black adhesive....trying for that "Tiffany " look......looks bloody good to me.! Attachment 279349
Attachment 279350...Another angle of the "Tiffany Special Edition Simpson "
That turned out well. It does look like a marbled look. How about the strength of it?
I really hope it works out for you.