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    Certainly tariffs and taxes/fees take a toll on some recipients of things...
    Being from Texas, we don't have to pay to pick a package-up.
    As we receive, we have absorbed the tarriffs, etc as we buy.

    Big problem for some is the experience of going to get a package and having to pay a bill to do so. In this regard, the fees are levied by the recipient's country.
    Shipping from Texas is expensive to another country.
    Countries with high tariffs seem to pay less to send, in retrospect?

    I can see how this would already have some on edge as in receiving.
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    In economics, one of the ideas behind imposing tariffs is to protect domestic industries.

    But if a product, like badger hairs, cannot be sourced in sufficient quantities from any other country but China, then it makes no sense to impose additional tarriffs on it, since there simply is no viable alternative.

    All it does in the country that imposes the tariff is increase the price a consumer has to pay, without an economical benefit for domestic industries that depend on this source.

    As far as economics go it is therefore difficult to find a justification, unless someone believes that hog farmers could benefit from more demand for bristles to make boar brushes after pork exports to China dried up.

    After all, Wisconsin is called “The Badger State” because of early lead miners who burrowed caves to live in, not because of an overabundance in shaving brush raw materials.



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    True...Unless there is a huge desire for badger-hair brushes/knots.
    Otherwise it get's grouped-in as merchandise and dutiable across the board? China, Canada, UK, U.S., anywhere else. They ALL are gonna get money off of it. No matter what anyone does or says.
    One way or another!
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    If you collect a package sent to you from out of country and have to pay your government money, it is because your government has put a tariff, duty or sales tax on it. That has nothing to do with the country from where the package was sent. When I say "your country" that means whatever country you are living in be it Canada, the US or China etc.

    Normally, once a country has tariffs place on it's goods by another country the country effected by the tariffs places tariffs on goods coming from the other country. This makes goods and services more expensive for consumers in both countries. It also, among other negative effects, forces companies to manufacture off shore in order to be able to sell it's products on a competitive basis in countries that have place tariffs on their products. Harley Davidson is an example of this.

    Long term there are other negative effects of a trade war on a global scale. Just google the "Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act" to get an idea of the consequences. I doubt very much that the average citizen in the different countries involved in this type of pissing match will be better off because of it.

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    I think no need to worry. I look at it as a 'reset' to get things more even again.
    Things will get evened-out and all will be back to the old normal.

    Looking back in history, that is always the outcome.

    Now sales/Vat taxes, duties and such are another thing...Once they have their hand in your pocket, that's all there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    I think no need to worry. I look at it as a 'reset' to get things more even again.
    Things will get evened-out and all will be back to the old normal.

    Looking back in history, that is always the outcome.

    Now sales/Vat taxes, duties and such are another thing...Once they have their hand in your pocket, that's all there is.
    America has pushed free trade since WWII after it took over England’s agenda to push free trade on the world. If there is a full on trade war, there will not be a simple reset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earcutter View Post
    America has pushed free trade since WWII after it took over England’s agenda to push free trade on the world. If there is a full on trade war, there will not be a simple reset.
    Seems pretty complicated. Yet seems pretty simple.
    Tariffs have been going-on all the while.
    We will see, anyway
    Nothing to be done at this time.
    Not like we can do anything individually.

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    Here is how one tariff that was placed over 50 years ago is still to this day creating inequality... or complications. Once in place and defended, these things are a bear to remove.

    I give you the chicken tax.

    https://youtu.be/Yc7YKYWLXww
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