Thread: Source for Badger Hair

+1 on Utopian's comment. And translated to shaving, which one of the badgers is better for brushes according to your DNA research? ;-)

Al raz.

Originally Posted by OLD_SCHOOL

Seems like you all are just beating a dead horse here. The OP was to say a rumour had been heard that "all" badger hair is from Europe. It was stated by others that a lot comes from China. So going on about how the badger hair is obtained or what DNA the badger has, is irrelevant to the OP don't you think?

Well, given that the OP was the one that brought up the issue of how the hair is obtained and also brought up what DNA the badger has, I'd say the OP pretty much made it relevant.

Rich,

Could you ask this gentleman to supply some pictures of this badger farm? I am afraid that's the only way to deal with the scepticism of many here.

Good point Kees, I have already asked Leon to try to find out more information. If and when more is forthcoming, I will of course publish it here. Happy New Year all!

Here's the proof you all want. Feeding time at the badger farm: Simpons Badger Attach from BadgerBadgerBadger.com

asian badgers are not likely the source of the hair, if u look at images of native asian badgers they have almost 98% black hair with only flecks of silver or they are brown, so contrary to popular belief, i think that badgers are being farmed (keept inside in cages) using european herritage.


One asain badger


European badger

You guys can debate Badger shaving all you want. I'm saving my time and breath and going to find a Beaver to shave.

Home in Norway (at least parts of Norway) Badger is considered a vermin and you get money if you can prove you killed one. You guys might want to collaborate with a hunter and shave off enough for an entire brush-collection.

Here is what DOVO Stahlwaren replied to one of their customers asking for badger hair origin clarification:

"Dear Sir,

All the badger hair used in our shaving brushes is sourced from suppliers in Germany; we were thus able to ask our suppliers for more information and would like to respond as follows:

- the badger hair used by our suppliers comes from Asia
- since badgers in Europe (for example in the Pyrenees) are not available in sufficient numbers to provide the required amounts of badger hair, our suppliers believe that the monopoly for badger hair supply is now in China
- European and Eurasian badger species are common in Asia; "European badger" is an animal species designation, unrelated to its geographical origin"

Translation by Cornelius, original text below

Sehr geehrter Herr,

die von uns verwendeten Pinselköpfe in der Qualitätsbandbreite von ‚Maschinenzupf’ bis ‚Silberspitz’
beziehen wir aus inländischen Quellen und haben daher zur unverbindlichen Beantwortung Ihrer Fragen
folgende Auskunft bei unseren Lieferanten eingeholt:

Das von unseren Lieferanten für die Pinselköpfe verwendete Haarmaterial stammt aus Asien.

Nachdem es in Europa keine Dachse mehr ( z. B. Pyrennäen-Dachs ) gibt, deren Fang- und Waidquote
Ausreichend Dachshaar bieten, geht man davon aus, dass das Monopol für Dachshaar inzwischen bei
chinesischen Erzeugern liegt. Der Artenbegriff ‚Europäischer bzw. Eurasischer Dachs ist fließend und die
Verbreitung des ‚Europäischen Dachses’ reicht bis nach Asien.

‚Europäischer Dachs’ in den Aussagen einiger Anbieter heißt daher nicht zwangsläufig, dass das Dachshaar
von Tieren aus Europa stammt, sondern nur die Spezies gemeint ist.

Wir hoffen, Ihnen mit diesen Auskünften gedient zu haben.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
DOVO STAHLWAREN
Cornelia Vahl

Now what cornelius said makes sence, as i doubted that the asiatic speacies of badger could be the source of hair.