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    Quote Originally Posted by blaireau View Post
    He said that he thought that the farm is owned by Edwin Jagger and that he believes that it is located in Germany. Does anyone have information on this?
    According to a post from Badger and Blade (below) Edwin Jagger does not use farmed badgers.

    Originally Posted by Ltltony
    Just got an email back from TESC (Edwin Jagger)

    "Badger is a source of meat to the Chinese people and is readily available and
    popular within its markets. The badger hair that we use is merely a by-product
    of the meat industry. If the hair wasn't used in the production of shaving
    brushes it would simply be disposed of. "

    Using the pelts of badgers used for meat seems far better to me then throwing them away and then raising badgers to shear.

    I won't post they one by one anymore but once I hear back from all of them I will post a complete tally.

    So far, Vulfix, Simpson, Kent, and Edwin Jagger use pelts from badgers used for meat and not sheared hair.

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    Thanks for the post, Ron. I agree with you 100% on the premise of a badger farm. I'd only add that I believe badgers are omnivores rather than strictly carnivores.

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    No dog in the fight and not holding anyone's coat. Having gone through a bout of SBAD in the past and having many to compare , I find the differences in the feel of various brushes interesting. A Rooney Heritage versus Finest, the Plissons HMW and EW and of course Simpsons , Kents and what have you. A wide variety even if some are from one part of the animal versus another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L View Post
    Thanks for the post, Ron. I agree with you 100% on the premise of a badger farm. I'd only add that I believe badgers are omnivores rather than strictly carnivores.

    Chris L
    Well, I suppose that's likely. However, I was once bitten by one, and trust me, he was a carnivore that night!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    Well, I suppose that's likely. However, I was once bitten by one, and trust me, he was a carnivore that night!
    Ron, I have to admit, I really wouldnt want to be the one to stick my hand into the cage or the hole to retrieve the damn thing! Let alone shave that SOB!
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    DNA of Eurasian badger of European origin is different from DNA of Eurasian badger of Asian origin.

    And here is the documentation of my assertion:

    IngentaConnect Mitochondrial DNA reveals a strong phylogeographic structure in t...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaireau View Post
    DNA of Eurasian badger of European origin is different from DNA of Eurasian badger of Asian origin.

    And here is the documentation of my assertion:

    IngentaConnect Mitochondrial DNA reveals a strong phylogeographic structure in t...
    So what? The DNA of every species that is geographically segregated is going to diverge. That's one of the ways that speciation occurs. My DNA is also different from each of my siblings. It's just a matter of degree. The conclusion of that paper is that a basic tenet of evolution has been reinforced for the ten thousandth time.

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    +1 on Utopian's comment. And translated to shaving, which one of the badgers is better for brushes according to your DNA research? ;-)

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    asian badgers are not likely the source of the hair, if u look at images of native asian badgers they have almost 98% black hair with only flecks of silver or they are brown, so contrary to popular belief, i think that badgers are being farmed (keept inside in cages) using european herritage.


    One asain badger


    European badger
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    You guys can debate Badger shaving all you want. I'm saving my time and breath and going to find a Beaver to shave.
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