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    Default Best brush for Mitchell's Wool Fat for face lathering ?

    Hey all,

    For personal reasons I tried to use a synthetic material brush but I'm finding it very hard to get good lather with it. I've tried soaking the brush in hot water for a couple minutes, I've used the 3-finger hold for loading the brush and also for applying on my face and I pre-soak the soap in warm/hot water before loading. I either get a really dry lather or I spend ages to get something that's creamy and thick but which dries out rather quickly (I'm not the fastest shaver in the West either...).

    Which brush do you recommend? If there is a high quality synthetic brush I'd prefer to give that a go but if no such option exists then I'll go for a badger/boar brush.

    If you think my lather issues are not because of the brush but something else then I'm all ears!

    Many thanks!

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    PenSword,

    You could try :

    1) Take the puck of MWF and rub it on your face like a shave stick; you can then face lather with your synthetic. This works extremely well !

    2) Mill the MWF with a grater, then repack it down, this will leave the surface of the puck 'softer' and easier to load. This also works extremely well !


    I have a Taylors (Of Bond Street) synthetic that has enough back-bone to directly load the brush from the puck.


    Have fun !

    Best regards

    Russ

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    Thanks Russ,

    I should rub the puck after it's been soaked I presume...

    should I grate the whole puck and then pack it back into the same bowl (I have the ceramic bowl the puck came with)? Sorry if I'm asking obvious questions, just want to be sure.

    Cheers!

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    First let me say that I have not personally used MWF but from what you are saying I would tend to think its more of a lathering issue then a brush issue. While some brushes seem to work better for different aplications but all will work with any soap or cream just might take more time.

    Now for your issue what I would suggest is trying to load you brush how you do to get to where you have the really dry lather. Once you are at that point pass your hand under a running faucet and then put it over the brush and let some of the water drip on the brush then try and face lather if still to dry repeat till you get the right amount of water in the mix. You could also try this while palm lathering. You would again load your brush up to the put you get the dry lather and then wet your off hand and then begain to build a lather in the palm of your off hand. You would then keep adding a little water to your off hand till you get a nice creamy lather that will stay on your for a good amount of time.

    Check out this video by manitc 59 YouTube - How To Build And Apply Traditional Shaving Lather
    it should help you out alot.

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    pensword,

    When I use the puck like a shave stick, I soak the puck (vertically) it in about 1" of warm water, then use the soaked portion to rub on my face.

    If you would like to mill it, I did exactly what you suggested; I grated the whole puck, then re-packed it into a 'Tupperware' like container - this stops the soap from drying and cracking. By all means use the MWF ceramic container

    Here is the video by Mantic59 on lathering MWF :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGLi_m9n_s


    Have fun !

    Best regards

    Russ
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    I don't presoak the soap, but I do the Rooney 3/1 pure badger brush, in a sink of roughly 110º water. Splash some water on my face, remove the brush from the water and squeeze most of the water out of the bristles, load the brush up with both circular and pumping motion, and lather my face, dipping the tip of the bristles in the water as needed. Between shaving passes, I don't rinse, rather just splash some more water on my face before relathering it. I don't seal the soap up, just use the ceramic dish, but I do use it at least every other day. Hope this helps.

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    I watched a few of Mantic59 videos, and found them to be helpful as well. His deadpan delivery reminds me of Ben Stein
    The Mitchell's is a great shaving soap, at least for me.

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    i agree that improving your technique and re-milling the soap is a great idea.. but to answer your original question.. you never did say what synthetic brush you were using.. there are some good ones out there and some bad ones... i current favourite brush for facelathering is the omega 11047.. it's a badger/boar combo brush and it's absolutely great for facelathering.. i picked mine up at westcoastshaving for only $13.. at that price.. it's worth trying if you want to expand your brush experience.

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    Mitchell's is indeed great soap and is probably my favorite. I always face lather it and I never have any issues.

    I can tell you for sure that synthetic brushes do not soak up any water so soaking your brush is not productive. A natural bristle will hold water, but I have never been a big soaker for any brush and I do much prefer boar or badger.

    While I have never found the need to grate up the soap and re-pack it, many people do find that it helps them quite a bit. When I am down to the last pieces of soap I have used it on my wet face like a shave stick and it works great.

    Will N.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillN View Post
    ...I have never been a big soaker for any brush...
    Just to clarify... I only soak the Rooney about a minute, then squeeze out about 70-80 % of the water.

    [edit] I've found no need to remill MWF. Like others, it's my favorite and most used shaving soap.
    Last edited by RoadKingMoe; 04-04-2011 at 02:35 PM.

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