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The guilty till proved innocent is something that is hard for me swallow. How can I prove the slab of ivory in my shop that I purchased from a well known ivory vendor is legal or not as I don't have the receipt any more...wasn't needed. I live on the OK/TX border, 6 miles on the OK side.
THis just reeks. I respect the intent, but that's as far as I agree with it...kind of like a new tax.
She don't have to stuff'em, just set him out on the porch for a few hours each night, before he kicks the bucket,,,:rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarkus
You cannot prove squat even with a receipt from a dealer,The main out used to be,the burden of proof was on the feds,now it is on the seller.Quote:
Originally Posted by shooter74743
Right or wrong,that will be the law and I will abide by it.
I would not get my pantys in a twist selling an Ivory scaled razor on SRP,but doing so will be against federal law.Is what it is.
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If you are looking for valid documentation forget it. it's designed so you can't get it and have the ivory. If it's an antique 100 years old or more and you're talking an ivory piece like a figurine usually the item itself will tell you what you want to know. Also an appraisal will work. If it's just a piece of raw ivory there is no way I know of to prove it's age. If you have a part of a tusk often times it has numbers impressed into the tusk itself or you could have paperwork from the Govt involved.
Basically the law is designed to stop the trade period.
As far as the old law was concerned having to prove anything was never the Govt's responsibility. U.S Customs has warehouses full of ivory they confiscated over the years. If you have an ivory shipment coming into the country and you can't prove how you got it you don't get it period. The difference now is interstate commerce has been added and many provisions of the old law were simply never enforced. Supposedly now they will though I have my doubts.
Basically the old law was set up so once you got it into the country you were home free and could do anything you wanted.
Unsubscribing from this thread,far to much erronious misinformation
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Aren't the eye teeth the only Ivory in the elk??Quote:
Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
Every law has repercussions on the private citizen if someone does not like him or is offended by his viewpoint. Look at many countries where neighbor rats on neighbor before the other can rat on them. I live in a hick town of about 10 houses away from town or city.
I lost a neighbor to Narc/BATF two nights ago. They tried to gain entry to his home at 1:45 AM. They said he was armed. He is dead. Whether he was guilty of the warrant they were serving in the mif\ddle of sleep period or not, they should have been in daylight so at least he would be able to see. They always wear their swat team blacks.
~Richard
Selling Ivory could be the same as selling 1 GM of herion.
The upper teeth are called Ivory because they have no enamal layer,are only two in the upper jaw,They are the Canines, but eye teeth may be another name for them.
The back chatter form other police departments of this area is in.. The guy shot had ...wait for it...no gun...no drugs were found in a nine hour search..he is still dead! The guy that ratted feared the cops less than the real suppliers.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
Wasn't it a year ago the the huge slush fund Obama signed over was used by BATF /Narcs to buy a huge amount of guns??
HMMMM!
Here is an interesting article on the topic as applied to guitars that have ivory parts or brazilian rosewood tone woods ........
CITES treaty for guitar collectors | The Fretboard Journal: Keepsake magazine for guitar collectors
Wish Pixel would not bug out! :shrug: We need him on this. I cannot see the government being interested in a few ounces of antique razor scales. Surely Ebay was harassing sellers a few years ago and has since quit. I still think vintage ivory is a good investment. It is, after all, ivory. NOT to condone recently poached ivory ( Not that ALL of it was not poached at one time or another). I look at it as gems which were gleaned which will never be done again. Sadly, that seems to be untrue.
I suppose I use this to justify my possession and preservation of old ivory items. This was the 'platinum' before there was platinum! Bone and horn were the plastics and acrylics. These items are part of history and are completely legit to own, IMO. Come and take em!
I Digress! :D
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Originally Posted by sharptonn
Oh No !!!!! are we soon to see this with Ivory Tusks ????
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Kidding here :rofl2:
Sorta :p
