Thread: Ivory

Originally Posted by Jimbo

If you could prove the ivory was as old as the razor (or at least old enough to be deemed vintage), you'd think that should be OK.

The problem is the possibility of a rescale with ban-ivory - I'm sure unscrupulous people could try to fake aged ivory somehow. Not being in any way an expert on it that could be a completely ludicrous suggestion - but I do know, for example, that there is quite a well-established and sophisticated trade in fake antique furniture, so why not fake antique ivory?

James.

I can make any Ivory look like it is 400 yrs old.is not a visual. is a paper trail they require.Our at the very least the stampings all legal tusks have.
Serial #, date of harvest, country of origen.Export stamps.this all burned into legal tusks.

The guilty till proved innocent is something that is hard for me swallow. How can I prove the slab of ivory in my shop that I purchased from a well known ivory vendor is legal or not as I don't have the receipt any more...wasn't needed. I live on the OK/TX border, 6 miles on the OK side.

THis just reeks. I respect the intent, but that's as far as I agree with it...kind of like a new tax.

Originally Posted by shooter74743

The guilty till proved innocent is something that is hard for me swallow. How can I prove the slab of ivory in my shop that I purchased from a well known ivory vendor is legal or not as I don't have the receipt any more...wasn't needed. I live on the OK/TX border, 6 miles on the OK side.

THis just reeks. I respect the intent, but that's as far as I agree with it...kind of like a new tax.

You cannot prove squat even with a receipt from a dealer,The main out used to be,the burden of proof was on the feds,now it is on the seller.
Right or wrong,that will be the law and I will abide by it.
I would not get my pantys in a twist selling an Ivory scaled razor on SRP,but doing so will be against federal law.Is what it is.

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If you are looking for valid documentation forget it. it's designed so you can't get it and have the ivory. If it's an antique 100 years old or more and you're talking an ivory piece like a figurine usually the item itself will tell you what you want to know. Also an appraisal will work. If it's just a piece of raw ivory there is no way I know of to prove it's age. If you have a part of a tusk often times it has numbers impressed into the tusk itself or you could have paperwork from the Govt involved.

Basically the law is designed to stop the trade period.

As far as the old law was concerned having to prove anything was never the Govt's responsibility. U.S Customs has warehouses full of ivory they confiscated over the years. If you have an ivory shipment coming into the country and you can't prove how you got it you don't get it period. The difference now is interstate commerce has been added and many provisions of the old law were simply never enforced. Supposedly now they will though I have my doubts.

Basically the old law was set up so once you got it into the country you were home free and could do anything you wanted.

Unsubscribing from this thread,far to much erronious misinformation