I got to tell you - this one has got me baffled. A real life mystery!
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I got to tell you - this one has got me baffled. A real life mystery!
Stephen king book + film - the longaliers (film name) and I think the past midnight short stories, explains this perfectly
It's the beginning of an alien invasion. :jedi:
Lol! I fear the truth will disappoint the First two posters lol!
If we knew what they know(the radar, air force etc) Im sure there is a reasonable explanation. Mystery to us as we don't know the facts(they haven't told us yet or are making the facts up as they go) LOL. Commercial airliner flying very low? Stolen passports? Elvis was on the plane with Jimmy Hoffa......
Maybe they are constructing a crash scene to hide the alien's hijacking of the plane to get back home lol!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bill3152
It's probably been a shift in the Bermuda triangle caused by global warming, only thing for it is to raise taxes
UFO sightings soar to new heights in Canada - Manitoba - CBC NewsQuote:
Originally Posted by monkeypuzzlebeefeater
Well I live in NY. This should provide enough of a reason to increase truck safety inspections and higher fuel standards and ban assault weapons and pea shooters. I mean enough is enough.....
Actually the plane is on the ground in Hong Kong. The pilot had a craving for Mc Donalds.
Real life LOST? :beer2:
I am still scratching my head over the assertion that two passengers from Iran, known to be traveling on stolen passports, are not suspected to be terrorists.
There are plenty of theories/suspicions as to what my have happened to the plane. Until they find the wreckage and probable cause of the crash there is not much point jumping to conclusions about anything.
Bob
You're joking right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Splashone
I'm assuming that North Korea spotted the plane a thousand miles from their borders and considered it an aerial attack on their country and responded accordingly.
Joking about that being a fact? Sadly, no. That was the case...Quote:
Originally Posted by earcutter
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Originally Posted by Splashone
You see it's like this Billy-Bob. When you all got two boys being Iranian and all, well you knows they gots to be Muslims and all. All Muslims are terrorists, especially if they are on a plane! WE all know thats! You know 911 and all...Yup, we got two bon-a-fide terrorists! It be as simple as that. There ain't no other way... them people are all terrorists. Damn fools saying otherwise... what's up with them thar idiots??Quote:
Originally Posted by Splashone
Seriously Splashone lol - I don't know what you are trying to say, but it sure reads like you are saying the above. Which is hilarious in its ignorance... of course I am sure that's not what you are saying - just pointing out how it comes across.
According to American Intelligence, they were two boys of Iranian decent seeking asylum in the west - maybe because they were Christians. Who knows? LOL!!
Well I take offense to your comment.
When I consider that law abiding folk tend to have/use their own passports, it just begins to bother me more than a little bit. The next fact that the airplane has disappeared without any distress call seems to indicate something catastrophic happened inflight...quite possibly a bomb. I may not be Sherlock Holmes putting those two facts together point to reasonable suspicion. Now throw in the fact that they were Iranian and it certainly wouldn't be prudent to dismiss them without a serious examination.
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Originally Posted by Splashone
I guess the point is - the boys were investigated and were "given serious examination." Alas, that investigation has proven to have produced nothing other than they were using two stolen passports to gain illegal entry into a foreign nation. Which is extremely common.
Sorry it never downed on me that perhaps you hadn't read the latest on the investigation.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with ya on this one Splashone. It's more ignorant to dismiss the idea of terrorism out of the fear of offending the PC crowd. What's hilarious is assuming American Intelligence has all the answers!
No one has ruled out terrorism pstrip - where are you getting that? Or is that a joke too? Man! What am I missing here?Quote:
Originally Posted by pstrjp
There are 239 people and their loved one's that don't find this funny at any level.
Well, I guess it sounds like you are dismissing it.Quote:
You see it's like this Billy-Bob. When you all got two boys being Iranian and all, well you knows they gots to be Muslims and all. All Muslims are terrorists, especially if they are on a plane! WE all know thats! You know 911 and all...Yup, we got two bon-a-fide terrorists! It be as simple as that. There ain't no other way... them people are all terrorists. Damn fools saying otherwise... what's up with them thar idiots??
The theories abound...
Decompression, whether Explosive or Slow seems to be the "Theory de Jour"
I was rather surprised when doing a Google search on decompression, how many airline catastrophes are actually attributed to it... Pretty interesting read, and makes me want to keep my two feet firmly on the ground :)
Update: Did you guys see the Chinese Satt pics ????
The classic case of explosive decompression was back in the 50s or 60s when passenger jets first came out. Dehavilland made the Comet and they started coming apart in mid air and the wreckage was so total there was nothing to look at. It was only after most of the fleet had self destructed the found they cause. The plane boasted big square picture windows and from take-off and landing cycles the frame began to tear at those big windows and then one day the whole thing blew out.Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
I have yet to see where the American intelligence community has stated anything certain about it. Interpol stated that the individuals had no known links to militant groups. That's about as vague a statement as can be made!Quote:
Originally Posted by pstrjp
Link?Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
Insidious pressurization leak is always a danger. The 777 should have plenty of alarms for that though. Payne Stewart went down in a Lear for that problem. The problem with that direction is that the plane should have continued on its programmed flight path until fuel was exhausted or it descended at the destination. Rapid decompression due to structural failure is almost unheard of since the Comet days and then only in airframes with a bazillion cycles on them the the Hawaiian Airlines 737 cabriolet...
Never forget the day payne stewart died,door came off the lear:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Splashone
Yeah, I remember the whole Payne Stewart tragedy. In all seriousness, though, what if we never find out what brought down this flight? What's the average depth in that part of the sea? I heard some aeronautics expert on the radio yesterday making a very convincing argument that all current passenger planes should be fitted not with outdated black boxes (which have to be retrieved to be of any use), but with instruments that transmit flight data in real time. As we all know, that technology exists in thousands of applications; apparently it's a cost issue.
Actually - the ocean where they are looking is only about 250 feet deep. So not too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoutHikerDad
But yeah, they might never find it!
Leaving Facebook...
They do have the ability to remote monitor aircraft functions but it is in limited use.
Malaysian plane sent out engine data before vanishing - tech - 11 March 2014 - New Scientist
Bob
I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure they found out what caused the comet to die by running hundreds of static pressure checks on one. They were still flying right up until the one they were checking failed at the stress point of the window just as you stated. Also the resources and knowledge of how to reconstruct the aircraft in the days of the comet was, just like jet airliners, in its infancy. They didn't know how to figure out what they were seeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
I find it EXTREEMLY unlikely that the 777 had this type of explosive decompression. They just don't have these kinds of issues. The plane has a spectacular safety record. Also even with an explosive decompression the transponder would keep functioning because the planes don't just disintegrate like the comet did. Too many have gone down to prove that one a la TWA 800. That one had a center fuel tank EXPLODE and it didn't completely disintegrate.
There was an instance of a windshield being blown off the front of a jet and that didn't cause this type of problem. I personally knew a guy who had a door blow off of a pressurized airplane in flight. He landed it safely. I never heard of the door being blown off of Payne Stewarts plane...
Don't jump to conclusions guys. There is a whole lot we don't know.
This all from a professional pilot. Just my $0.02.
This just gets worse and worse!
Officials: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 may have flown for hours - CNN.com
I really am starting to really believe that they will never find it and hence, we'll never know...
I am starting to agree with you, David. It just boggles the mind that a 777 could just disappear without a trace like that.
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Originally Posted by earcutter
As I recall after one crashed they found enough of it intact to find these strange cracks near the window and when they checked the remaining fleet they found all of them had assorted cracks near the windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBPilot
But we have no information. They may have been terrorists, or they just might have been criminals wanting to get somewhere anonymous. It could have been terrorists. However, terrorists need publicity. The 911 hijackers didn't take the plane and then quitely made it disappear in the ocean or some desert. They did something they were sure would make the world watch. Letting a plane disappear quietly, not making any sort of statement and noone taking credit for it. That doesn't really sound like any sort of terrorist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splashone
If you look at the aircrash investigations on national geographic, you see that sometimes planes disintegrate or break apart in an instant, before anyone can be contacted. The black boxes haven't been found yet, so nothing is known.
But someone turned off the transponder! That does not just "happen" and it is definitely non-standard procedure. The same as failing to check in with center when handed off to the next sector. Both are highly unusual but they would be things that knowledgeable terrorists/hijackers would know about and use to not "give away" what was going on.
They've got their best men cracking on this case;
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...trangelove.gifQuote:
SEPANG - A shaman, claiming to be able to locate the missing MH370 jetliner, offered his expertise to help the authorities in their search.
Datuk Mahaguru Ibrahim Mat Zin, known as Raja Bomoh Sedunia Nujum VIP and 1Malaysia Corporate Bomoh said he suspects the missing aircraft was hijacked by elves (buniyan).
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You may be right, it's been a while since I studied the Comet. I do know they redesigned it with round windows but no one wanted them due to the history.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
History, Travel, Arts, Science, People, Places | Smithsonian look almost to the bottom of the page
Looks like we were both correct. They found metal fatigue in one they found and to discover the reasons they used water to pressurize and depressurize it.