Thread: I have some America questions for you!

Some people do carry them around all the time. Mostly, we lock them up and get them about whenever it's time to use them, hunting, shooting or whatever. I've a particular interest in black=poweder cartridge firearms and WWII rifles.

Shoot. I was hoping you'd ask me to explain the infield fly rule, Bobbo.

Originally Posted by Fischjaeger

Some people do carry them around all the time. Mostly, we lock them up and get them about whenever it's time to use them, hunting, shooting or whatever. I've a particular interest in black=poweder cartridge firearms and WWII rifles.

Shoot. I was hoping you'd ask me to explain the infield fly rule, Bobbo.

The infield fly rule is a good one ---- maybe someone can explain the game of cricket as well.


Justin

Or rounders. No matter how many times I read the rules for either one, I can't get it either.

Originally Posted by Fischjaeger

Or rounders. No matter how many times I read the rules for either one, I can't get it either.

I'll tackle one. The infield fly rule is basically a way to keep the defense from easily getting a forced out. If you have runners on bases and they are forced to run on a fair ball (maybe a runner on first base) and the batter hits a fly ball to the infield (or short outfield), then the defense could on purpose miss the fly ball , letting it hit the ground, and get the runner (a forced out) at the base he is running to. You see the runner has to stay close to the base that he is on (preparing to tag up), so if the fly ball is missed on purpose then he could easily be thrown out at the base he is running to.
So in these situations ((1) runner at first (2) runners at first and second (3) runners at first, second and third), if the ball is popped up (fly ball) to the infield then the umpire calls infield fly rule which designates the batter out and therefore relieves the runner(s) of being forced to run --- basically ending the play. If a runner is not in a forced run situation ((1) runner on second (2) runners on second and third (3)runner on third) and the ball is popped up to the infield then the infield fly rule is void and doesn't apply and the ball is played.

Justin (I'm not sure what you mean by rounder)

Originally Posted by jaegerhund

... then the umpire calls infield fly rule which designates the batter out and therefore relieves the runner(s) of being forced to run ---'''
Justin (I'm not sure what you mean by rounder)

Jaeger-dude;

Let me start by saying I've never been much of a sports-nut (I always preferred to spend my time romancing beautiful women....but, hey...that's just me!)

So, the umpire has to call 'infield fly rule' for it to come into play? Which implies that if he doesn't call it, it doesn't come into play, and it's a forced out? So, it's the umpires choice??

(...I'm sorry, but this makes women look down right LOGICAL!...)

-whatever

-Lou

Originally Posted by scarface

Jaeger-dude;

Let me start by saying I've never been much of a sports-nut (I always preferred to spend my time romancing beautiful women....but, hey...that's just me!)

So, the umpire has to call 'infield fly rule' for it to come into play? Which implies that if he doesn't call it, it doesn't come into play, and it's a forced out? So, it's the umpires choice??

-whatever

-Lou

Lou -- the ump by rule must make a judgment call here ---- let me make a few more things clear --this rule applies with less than two outs and runners in forced run positions. It's basically a rule to keep infielders from making easy double plays. Lets say for instance that a runner is on first base and the ball is popped up to the second baseman. The runner at first has to tag up (stays close to first) if the second baseman catches the ball in the air. So the second baseman could wait to the last second and miss the ball (on purpose) which would force the runner to run and would give an easy double play situation for the second baseman. So the ump yells out "infield fly (rule)" which makes the batter out and the runners are not obliged to run --- but they can run at their own risk (as according to baseball rules). The judgment call that the ump must make is whether or not the infield fly rule should apply. If a fly ball is hit to the infield or short outfield and it appears that a double play could be easily executed if the ball is missed on purpose, then the ump calls upon the infield fly rule.

Justin

That's right. Virtually everything in the game is the umpire's judgement, but baseball umps usually do an outstanding job.
Section 9 of the rule book specifically gives them power to decide anything imagineable, plus "each umpire has the authority to rule on any point not specifically covered in these rules." In the history of the game, it was an important development that streamlined and cleaned up the game.


Rounders is the game from which baseball grew. In fact, it was once known as "base-ball"
There are nine innings and teams alternate batting and fielding. You score "rounders" after you bat a ball and try to get around four bases. If the ball is caught, you're out or if you touch a tagged base you're out. it uses a corked ball covered in white leather (sound familiar?) the pitch is "bowled" underhand and the bases are posts stuck in the ground. The most obvious difference is that it is played on a square not a diamond. I've always wanted to get a friendly game going, but never could understand the rules well enough to make it work.

Originally Posted by jaegerhund

Lou -- the ump by rule must make a judgment call here ---- let me make a few more things clear --this rule applies with less than two outs and runners in forced run positions. It's basically a rule to keep infielders from making easy double plays. Lets say for instance that a runner is on first base and the ball is popped up to the second baseman. The runner at first has to tag up (stays close to first) if the second baseman catches the ball in the air. So the second baseman could wait to the last second and miss the ball (on purpose) which would force the runner to run and would give an easy double play situation for the second baseman. So the ump yells out "infield fly (rule)" which makes the batter out and the runners are not obliged to run --- but they can run at their own risk (as according to baseball rules). The judgment call that the ump must make is whether or not the infield fly rule should apply. If a fly ball is hit to the infield or short outfield and it appears that a double play could be easily executed if the ball is missed on purpose, then the ump calls upon the infield fly rule.

Justin

No offense, Justin, but I got to about the second or third sentence of your explanation and I just grayed out and started thinking about chicks...

...sorry, it's a personal thing!

-whatever

-Lou

By the way, the reason for "less than two outs" is because if there are two outs, it doesn't matter. There is no possibility of a double play.

Thanks for your input Fischjaeger (dig the name)

Believe me Lou if was harder to right it up ---- I kept zoning out and drifting --- while visions of hooters danced in my head. Yes this little rule makes dealing with women seem easy. To bad there isn't some inhouse female rule a guy can call sometimes ---


Justin