Thread: saber rattling

Yes, he is saying what is expected, but no one in the rest of the world believes him. It is just another Red Line that he did or did not draw, depending on the political ramifications.

What he will do is eventually say something that he will have to back up with American lives. So for now his solution is to send Kerry and Biden (Cheech and Chong) to show our resolve and solve the problem?

The Ukrainian people are offended and should be. Biden offers 50 million in bribe money, to fight corruption? America under the current administration does not have a track record for backing their friends and many see their actions for what they are. As one Ukrainian said, “The US made a shi_ sandwich, and now Putin is forcing them to eat it.” This is America’s foreign policy.

Do you think Putin or Kim would be acting up, if Romney was President?

The sanctions that have been imposed on these countrys do not bother me at all.
What bothers me is having our grand leader tell a country, you mess with our friends, we will use all our military might against you.
Those are fightin words.
Is like going into a bar and proclaiming that you are the meanest, baddest, strongest guy on the planet.
What happens next is usually some little pissant guy will Kick your Azz

Originally Posted by Euclid440

Yes, he is saying what is expected, but no one in the rest of the world believes him. It is just another Red Line that he did or did not draw, depending on the political ramifications.

What he will do is eventually say something that he will have to back up with American lives. So for now his solution is to send Kerry and Biden (Cheech and Chong) to show our resolve and solve the problem?

The Ukrainian people are offended and should be. Biden offers 50 million in bribe money, to fight corruption? America under the current administration does not have a track record for backing their friends and many see their actions for what they are. As one Ukrainian said, “The US made a shi_ sandwich, and now Putin is forcing them to eat it.” This is America’s foreign policy.

Do you think Putin or Kim would be acting up, if Romney was President?

Why would he be taken seriously? He opened his administration by giving away a missile shield in Eastern Europe to Putin for absolutely nothing in return. Then goes on an apology tour around the world making it obvious that he doesn't intend to operate in the same ways of other presidents. Add in the handling of Benghazi and Syria and it's no wonder all he has is hot air to offer up. And his enemies know this and will act accordingly. And don't forget Romney was laughed off stage for suggesting that Putin was dangerous.

Originally Posted by Bruno

The US still spends as much on the military as the rest of the world combined.
And what he is doing is the same as every president before him. It's a job requirement. The US citizens want it that way.

That's just too sweeping of a statement. Actually, now that I have lived here for 7 years, I would say that is factually incorrect.

Its way more complex than I am going to make it, but in effort to keep it simple... Allow me to sweep lol.

Democracy doesn't run the same way in America as it does in other countries. The majority here, the vast majority, can want something and be completely denied it even if the President runs on that platform.

Money buys policy here - the pubic be damned. Hence, saying the Americans want it is factually incorrect. I know that they push fair elections around the world bla, bla, bla... but elections are bought and sold here. Many citizens here feel as removed as some feel in fasciest states lol!

Originally Posted by BobH

Just hope it is not, on Putin's part, shades of taking back the Rhineland and then Sudetenland and you know the rest of the story. Saber rattling is all fun and games till somebody looses an eye then the crap really starts.

Bob

I'll never understand why people think Obama is a pushover lol! The man is dangerous. He isn't saber rattling... no, no. He'll get what he wants - he'll just be smiling as he does it.

Originally Posted by BobH

Saber rattling is all fun and games till somebody looses an eye

...or an Arch Duke!

Originally Posted by earcutter

I'll never understand why people think Obama is a pushover lol! The man is dangerous. He isn't saber rattling... no, no. He'll get what he wants - he'll just be smiling as he does it.

I wasn't intimating that Mr. O was a pushover, really don't know if he is or isn't. Just saying the way things stand now it will only take an instance or two of local area commanders acting independantly doing something really rash to leave either side with no way out without loosing face. That would put it past any compromise diplomatic solution and land everyone in the soup.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

I wasn't intimating that Mr. O was a pushover, really don't know if he is or isn't. Just saying the way things stand now it will only take an instance or two of local area commanders acting independantly doing something really rash to leave either side with no way out without loosing face. That would put it past any compromise diplomatic solution and land everyone in the soup.

Bob

Hey sorry Bob - I linked the wrong post lol!!

Originally Posted by earcutter

Hey sorry Bob - I linked the wrong post lol!!

No sweat, I was a little puzzled is all.

Bob

Originally Posted by earcutter

That's just too sweeping of a statement. Actually, now that I have lived here for 7 years, I would say that is factually incorrect.

Its way more complex than I am going to make it, but in effort to keep it simple... Allow me to sweep lol.

Democracy doesn't run the same way in America as it does in other countries. The majority here, the vast majority, can want something and be completely denied it even if the President runs on that platform.

Money buys policy here - the pubic be damned. Hence, saying the Americans want it is factually incorrect. I know that they push fair elections around the world bla, bla, bla... but elections are bought and sold here. Many citizens here feel as removed as some feel in fasciest states lol!

This is how I see and feel it is. The Supreme Court has recently sold the people out to 'fat cat' big money. The 'War Machine' is alive and well in America get use to it.

But you must understand,without the war machine,many billions would be lost to american industrys and 100s of thousands of jobs lost.
We cannot stop now,the war monger business is just to big,gotta keep it going.