Thread: The Cost of War

Interesting article and discussion,,, but wondering only one thing

WHERE IS MY MOTHER'S MONEY !!!!!!!

Let's see Pops landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day fought through the Ardenes and he wasn't looking for Coticules

Not really sure what he was doing in Thule Greenland and Korea but we knew he was there

Went to Viet Nam in 1971 came home in 1972

Retired after 30 years


And got some news,,, Mom, who will turn 94 this coming July gets Nada, zip, nutin, from his 3 wars and 30 years served so ummmmm what gives ?????


Guess Glen is going to be looking through some paperwork when I get home to Colorado in July

Glen

Hope you can get that all sorted out quickly. That is just not right.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

Glen

Hope you can get that all sorted out quickly. That is just not right.

Bob

A search sorted it out rather quickly,,,

Pops was never connected to the VA, he was never wounded nor disabled from Military Service therefore besides 3 wars, Multiple Combat medals, and 30 years of service to his country... She gets nothing..

Of course her "Service" of going to multiple bases across the world, packing up the family, settling the family every 3 years, making due with two children while he was off "Playing War" that all counts for nothing too


ps; I wouldn't trade my childhood as a Military Brat for anything, some of my best memories..

Originally Posted by gssixgun

A search sorted it out rather quickly,,,

Pops was never connected to the VA, he was never wounded nor disabled from Military Service therefore besides 3 wars, Multiple Combat medals, and 30 years of service to his country... She gets nothing..

Of course her "Service" of going to multiple bases across the world, packing up the family, settling the family every 3 years, making due with two children while he was off "Playing War" that all counts for nothing too


ps; I wouldn't trade my childhood as a Military Brat for anything, some of my best memories..

Sorry to hear Glen,Sadley your mother probebly did get One very meager benifit.Your dads military death benifit of around $150.00

Originally Posted by gssixgun

A search sorted it out rather quickly,,,

Pops was never connected to the VA, he was never wounded nor disabled from Military Service therefore besides 3 wars, Multiple Combat medals, and 30 years of service to his country... She gets nothing..

Of course her "Service" of going to multiple bases across the world, packing up the family, settling the family every 3 years, making due with two children while he was off "Playing War" that all counts for nothing too


ps; I wouldn't trade my childhood as a Military Brat for anything, some of my best memories..

That's weird! Your mom gets a pension from him though no??

Originally Posted by earcutter

That's weird! Your mom gets a pension from him though no??

No NOTHING at all from the Military,,, That is what I was pointing out, the article is a bit mis-leading, it implies that, but I double checked once he passed away she was cut loose same as many others...

Read the article closer

Also look at the SBP's you will see it is much that same as any other life insurance policy, unless a service member pays into it the surviving spouse gets nothing

Originally Posted by gssixgun

No NOTHING at all from the Military,,, That is what I was pointing out, the article is a bit mis-leading, it implies that, but I double checked once he passed away she was cut loose same as many others...

Read the article closer

Also look at the SBP's you will see it is much that same as any other life insurance policy, unless a service member pays into it the surviving spouse gets nothing

Glen - as soon as I read your post I got on the phone with a lawyer friend who actually works VA disability claims for veterans because something about what you are saying rings sour to me... It did to him as well.

There could be a host of reasons why - like mom taking a buy out or whatever... But the fact is laws change and as unusual as what you are stating today... may not have been unusual in the day. Who knows. But it is unusual.

The first place I would go of course is the Veterans Admin Office out in CO and see what they say. After that, short of a good reason, let me know. I might be able to point you in the right direction in CO as many of my wife's grads end up there!

Originally Posted by earcutter

Glen - as soon as I read your post I got on the phone with a lawyer friend who actually works VA disability claims for veterans because something about what you are saying rings sour to me... It did to him as well.

There could be a host of reasons why - like mom taking a buy out or whatever... But the fact is laws change and as unusual as what you are stating today... may not have been unusual in the day. Who knows. But it is unusual.

The first place I would go of course is the Veterans Admin Office out in CO and see what they say. After that, short of a good reason, let me know. I might be able to point you in the right direction in CO as many of my wife's grads end up there!

Sorry... I didn't read the part where you said you double checked. Arg!

Man that's just wrong!

Originally Posted by earcutter

Glen - as soon as I read your post I got on the phone with a lawyer friend who actually works VA disability claims for veterans because something about what you are saying rings sour to me... It did to him as well.

There could be a host of reasons why - like mom taking a buy out or whatever... But the fact is laws change and as unusual as what you are stating today... may not have been unusual in the day. Who knows. But it is unusual.

The first place I would go of course is the Veterans Admin Office out in CO and see what they say. After that, short of a good reason, let me know. I might be able to point you in the right direction in CO as many of my wife's grads end up there!

Not a host of reasons at all, you are just not understanding the difference...

VA Benefits and Military Pensions are different period end of story..

Hardship / Low Income Benefits are also different..

Healthcare is also separate..


The discussion here is lumping all this together, and therefore getting more and more inaccurate with each subsequent post as it goes farther and farther off course and the reason is the wording in the original article is very misleading...


In the Opening and Title it lumps together 3 things

Benefits
Pension
VA Benefits

These are not all the same, basically the article started the mis-information and this thread is simply continuing it...


But to be as clear as possible my Mom gets Nothing from the Military or from Pops service over 3 wars and 30+years, other then what was paid for separately by my Father like every other Insurance policy that he had..

He had no dealing with the VA, no Disabilities, no Wounds, no PTSD, no issues, he served his country when asked, he retired, and went on with life in the real world and raised a family...

Here is the line from the article that counts

"Payments are based on financial need, any disabilities, and whether the veteran's death was tied to military service"

Glen

Sorry to hear that. I don't know the US system but had assumed that a military pension had survivor benefits clauses. I know, never assume anything. I still don't think that is right as it stands.

Bob