Thread: What is wrong with America

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Then your going to find it hilarious that there are people like myself, who believe in both.

You got company, I do too. Oddly enough I enjoy George Carlin also as I don't much care for "organized" religions.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

You got company, I do too. Oddly enough I enjoy George Carlin also as I don't much care for "organized" religions.

Bob

I'm in agreement with you both.

200 years ago if you had told folks that the Universe was made up of atoms held together by an unseen force they would have thought you crazy.

For me, the idea that the Universe was created and has an underlying Creative Force / God / Higher Power, or whatever name we refer to it, as all man has done since the dawn of time, is a no-brainer.

For me personally, I can look at the stars, or at the tree's or at the rocks in a stream, at people, and see the face and presence of this power...my view only.

I'd like all you white collar criminals to stand up and take a bow for ruining countless thousands of lives and being rewarded for it......if you are going to take on the little guy take the big guys down also......and a final word before I start really going crazy on this thread....follow the money.

Originally Posted by WW243

I'd like all you white collar criminals to stand up and take a bow for ruining countless thousands of lives and being rewarded for it......if you are going to take on the little guy take the big guys down also......and a final word before I start really going crazy on this thread....follow the money.

So far this thread has remained relatively peaceful. But as it begins to move towards religion
I would ask the members to be vigilant and respect other's
opinions without "really going crazy on this thread". Thank you, in advance, to all who post here.

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in: When did it become so difficult to understand the difference between legal and illegal? These arguments about previous immigrations are patently false. Right, we are a Nation of immigrants, even the Native Americans are immigrants but did anyone notice that we are now a country with 2 main languages? Is this because someone went through the immigration process as my Grandmother did when she emigrated from Scotland to the U.S.? No, it is more likely that someone crossed the Rio Grande in their underwear with a floating black garbage bag.
And no, I don't blame anyone for wanting to come to the United States. Ok, now I'll shut up.

Originally Posted by MajorEthanolic

I find it funny that people can believe in a God, with zero evidence and only "faith" to dictate, and then deny things like evolution that have hundreds of years of provable, empirical data.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Then your going to find it hilarious that there are people like myself, who believe in both.

Just to mess with you guys... the big bang theory comes from the work of a Belgian Jesuit priest. And a French Jesuit priest was also very active in paleontology and is credited with the development of modern evolutionary synthesis.

In most of the rest of the 1st world, there is no such conflict between christian faith and science. In fact, when I was growing up, a catholic school would give you the most hardcore maths/science education... usually thanks to the Jesuit teachers.

Originally Posted by MichaelP

Just to mess with you guys... the big bang theory comes from the work of a Belgian Jesuit priest. And a French Jesuit priest was also very active in paleontology and is credited with the development of modern evolutionary synthesis.

In most of the rest of the 1st world, there is no such conflict between christian faith and science. In fact, when I was growing up, a catholic school would give you the most hardcore maths/science education... usually thanks to the Jesuit teachers.

I feel much the same. I'm a PhD biochemist, and I see no conflict between religion and science unless you want to take the bible literally. As an allegory, it fits perfectly.

Originally Posted by MichaelP

Just to mess with you guys... the big bang theory comes from the work of a Belgian Jesuit priest. And a French Jesuit priest was also very active in paleontology and is credited with the development of modern evolutionary synthesis.

In most of the rest of the 1st world, there is no such conflict between christian faith and science. In fact, when I was growing up, a catholic school would give you the most hardcore maths/science education... usually thanks to the Jesuit teachers.

The problem reconciling the two is not usually religion per se, but fundamentalist (if that is the right word) interpretations of the various religions. Interpretations that exclude/deny any other way of looking at the world. Akin to pounding square pegs in round holes rather than making the pieces fit together. Couple that with fervent nationalism and you have a vinegar which sours any attempt of nations/regions to get along together. Just my POV so don't anyone get offended if it is not yours as this is a touchy subject for some.


Bob

Ok, Guys,
It is about time to get back on track with some POSITIVE things which may help the country in the future.
Subjective rants have killed more than one thread, and country!

Perhaps a rethinking of the possibilities of free speech is in order:
"The freedoms you have ends with the tip of my nose"
Keep it polite gents!
~Richard

Originally Posted by Geezer

Ok, Guys,
It is about time to get back on track with some POSITIVE things which may help the country in the future.
Subjective rants have killed more than one thread, and country!

Perhaps a rethinking of the possibilities of free speech is in order:
"The freedoms you have ends with the tip of my nose"
Keep it polite gents!
~Richard

I had a school teacher that once told me that my business ended where his began. Some times I believe that the problem with this country and any country is professional politicians. those who have never worked a job in there life or served there country .