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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Not related to Cuba.

    As far as i know, currently there are huge investments going on in EU to get gas from somewhere else. Of course it takes time.
    Luckily my country uses no natural gas almost at all.

    Russia already made a huge mistake by using natural gas as a political & economical weapon against Ukraine. All the trust is gone. Crimea, Luhansk and Donets regions are out of gas at the moment Ukraine wants to close it.

    The problem with the Russian oil and gas fields is also their outdated technology: if they stop pumping, it's almost impossible to start it again with their equipment. They do not have enough capacity to store it either.
    Listened to Putin's speech today. No real answers. He has painted his country into a corner now and it's impossible to find easy and painless way out.
    Yes, if we thought Putin was a bit unpredictable and dangerous before being painted into a corner, watch out now. Won't be the first time armed conflict has been used to distract people from domestic woes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobH View Post
    Yes, if we thought Putin was a bit unpredictable and dangerous before being painted into a corner, watch out now. Won't be the first time armed conflict has been used to distract people from domestic woes.

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    Unfortunately so,

    This all reminds me too much of 1938. Seems there cannot be happy endings this time either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post

    When something doesn't get you the results you want you can either try something different or 'wait a little longer'.

    If the goal a is regime change, the guy dying of old age means that sanctions failed.

    As far as hypocrisy goes, that's nothing new and this isn't even one of the better examples of it.
    US has twenty something sanctions programs, the people who care most about them are corporate executives. Most ordinary americans are told to focus on the big picture such as 'Obama - bad', and that the nuts and bolts are not too important to be concerned with.


    6 Countries including the newest against Russia (the other programs are against certain groups of people)

    Length of time, actually North Korea has been in effect 12 years longer and gone through the death of Kim Il -sung (sp) No more a regime change then Raul Castro was

    So yes Obama does look a bit hypocritical on this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    6 Countries including the newest against Russia (the other programs are against certain groups of people)
    Look it up - here's the direct link to the official government policy, it's at the department of Treasury, not at a think-tank/oped/propaganda outlet

    Sanctions Programs and Country Information

    If people don't like what this president is doing they can simply elect a different one in less than two years. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the partisans to start calling 'hypocrisy' on the one they voted for.
    Jeb Bush will probably get the Florida vote regardless, let's wait and see if he'll promise to reinstate the embargo and then follow through if he gets elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    Look it up - here's the direct link to the official government policy, it's at the department of Treasury, not at a think-tank/oped/propaganda outlet

    Sanctions Programs and Country Information

    If people don't like what this president is doing they can simply elect a different one in less than two years. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the partisans to start calling 'hypocrisy' on the one they voted for.
    Jeb Bush will probably get the Florida vote regardless, let's wait and see if he'll promise to reinstate the embargo and then follow through if he gets elected.
    Let's not be too fast to place Ole Jeb's hand on the Bible yet,,,,, Jeb is not the favored boy in Florida.
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    Jeb isn't extreme enough to get the Repub nomination. Anyone extreme enough to do that is too far right to win the general election. The circular firing squad just keeps getting bigger.
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    He'll most likely be the preferred establishment option to romney and christie, and the republican party of 2014 is much more capable of picking a candidate with real chance of winning to one who'll just throw red meat at the hardliners but can't win against clinton.

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    True, but 2 years is a lifetime in an upcoming election. The country has had enough Bushes & Clinton's & I think the primaries will reflect that.
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    We shall see john,If Hillery would have divorced Bill after the Lewinsky Debacle,I would vote for her,Sadley she is a gutless woman,power hungry, with zero morals.JMO
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    I know, but the current political realities are pretty strong

    Political campaigns are expensive and building anything grass-roots with no money takes time and there's just not enough of that for 2016.

    I thought back in 2008 that the next round being clinton vs. bush would be somewhat plausible but does sound like a joke and now to me it seems close to inevitable.

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