Thread: Down right Un-American...

Originally Posted by Suticat

Ive never been in the military. But we were taught in grade school what the flag stood for, how to honor the flag and how to dispose of one. That was back when you were allowed to say the pledge of allegiance and pray in school. Long before the PC movement that stripped our country of common sense and created a nation of pansies that are afraid to say or do anything out fear of upsetting/offending someone. The flag also represent the 100's of thousands of men of woman that died defending it from the birth of our country to now as well as representing our country in its entirety. The two will for ever be intertwined.

politically correct: conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated. (Webster's Dictionary)

From your previous posts on this thread I would think it's safe to say you were offended by your neighbor's actions. Was it your intent by knocking on his door to educated him on how to dispose of his flag as to not offend you and other like minded citizens? If you answer is yes and your neighbor holds differing political sensibilities to your own then wouldn't your actions also be considered practicing PC? Would that make you a "pansy"?

Originally Posted by Brenngun

politically correct: conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated. (Webster's Dictionary)

From your previous posts on this thread I would think it's safe to say you were offended by your neighbor's actions. Was it your intent by knocking on his door to educated him on how to dispose of his flag as to not offend you and other like minded citizens? If you answer is yes and your neighbor holds differing political sensibilities to your own then wouldn't your actions also be considered practicing PC? Would that make you a "pansy"?

Really Brenngunn ???

How about we bring the thread up , instead of down.

It is hard to go down further than post #1.

Really Hirlau??

No offence intended or was that too PC to say? Why did you feel my question was bringing the thread down? I was referencing the comment made by another member in their post asserting a politically correct approach to living was creating pansies. Why haven't you asserted that their comment was bringing the thread down? I was just pointing out the hypocrisy. Not sure if you consider this going up or down. I consider it honest and the use of common sense. Another item the member felt was now missing.

Originally Posted by Brenngun

Really Hirlau??

No offence intended or was that too PC to say? Why did you feel my question was bringing the thread down? I was referencing the comment made by another member in their post asserting a politically correct approach to living was creating pansies. Why haven't you asserted that their comment was bringing the thread down? I was just pointing out the hypocrisy. Not sure if you consider this going up or down. I consider it honest and the use of common sense. Another item the member felt was now missing.

You may not like the opening post or give a hoot about the flag , or how the flag is handled,,,

But you took the opportunity to to voice your discontent with the topic to artfully call the O.P. author Suticat a pansy, which all men here know is just another word meaning pu$$y.

What I find ironic is that, had the two of you been at the same table, you would not have called him a pansy.

If you don't like the topic, don't throw personal shots at the author.

I don't think the OP would have slapped anybody even though he felt that way. Verbal expression is always 10 fold the action taken. Anybody that respects the flag like that also respects humans at the same level. Now if the OP was John Wayne maybe but he got away with a lot. The flag is a symbol with great meaning to some people (me included). Now you could say it's no big deal to you but then you have no right to give any other symbol importance either. Say KKK and watch the hairs stand up on the back of many necks of the same people that would say it's just a flag. This is what makes no sense to me. Who decides what is right and what is wrong. I used to fly a flag right underneath my American flag that many would find threatening but I don't see it that way.

It doesn't mean I am coming after you, it means stay off of me. It may co-notate violence but you have to test that by pushing me too far.


People who trash flags,burn them at rallies, walk on them, are saying to the others they don't respect them and everything they represent. You could find that very repulsive if you lost a limb or a loved one so these protesters can live the life they have.
It's the lack of respect that angers.

Originally Posted by 10Pups

It's the lack of respect that angers.

Exactly...


You either have it and therefore understand my point or you dont and go off on pointless tangnets.


"Our flag honors those who have fought to protect it, and is a reminder of the sacrifice of our nation's founders and heroes. As the ultimate icon of America's storied history, the Stars and Stripes represents the very best of this nation."

Joe Barton

As to dignity, we simply ceremoniously folded 3 flags which were quite worn last summer during a gathering and set them as gently as possible upon a fire pit. Everyone stood and cited the Pledge of Allegiance as they burned.

We all felt quite satisfied with their demise.

YMMV

Originally Posted by Hirlau

You may not like the opening post or give a hoot about the flag , or how the flag is handled,,,

But you took the opportunity to to voice your discontent with the topic to artfully call the O.P. author Suticat a pansy, which all men here know is just another word meaning pu$$y.

What I find ironic is that, had the two of you been at the same table, you would not have called him a pansy.

If you don't like the topic, don't throw personal shots at the author.

Hirlau, I would encourage you to reread my original post in hopes of a clearer understanding. I never expressed any opinion one way or the other about the OP's opening post or how the flag is handled. Also didn't express any opinion or "discontent" with the topic and most assuredly not at any time or in anyone's reimagining of my comments (including yours) did I call the OP a pansy or "pu$$y".

I did however reflect how politically correctness like so many other ideals can be different to different people. I also did ask the OP for their opinion with respect to how their original "pansy" comment should apply with this understanding.

Hypocrisy can be a bitch!