Thread: Insomnia

Originally Posted by THORandODIN

Have any of you guys, gals have insomnia? I do, real bad, it takes me 3 Ambian to get through the night, 1 1/2 at bed time then 1 1/2 at around 2:00am when I wake up from the first dose, Well I just got a script of Ambian CR, the time release stuff, My question is have any of ya'll taken this and if so how did it do? ie.knock you out for the night or do you wake up and then go back to sleep?. Thanks.

Really too bad you are not in a Cannabis legal state. As BigSpenDur says, avoid the drugs. I'm a BP II and finally off Rx medications and only on what's legally available in WA. I'm pretty much retired but for some P-T work in my post-unemployment future...likely getting that mid-nightly paid workout at UPS again. 20 hrs per week and better benefits than most any corporation in the country thanks to Teamsters!!

Going back to Ambian. When I had a really serious bout of depression and insomnia combined, I was in a very deep, dark place. I still cannot believe I survived that nearly 4.5 year period. All thanks to this gawdawful drug called GEODON! Evil shit makes you sleep 15+ hrs per day, and if not, like say you working for a living like me, then every day you want to die. Die quickly!

I moved a friend in and her daughter to keep me from going into the garage for one last time.

I wish the ambien was removed from the market, , stepsons wife is addicted to it and they Both do strange things while under the influence, NOTHING BUT TROUBLE. Trust Me on that.

Want to know how to sleep sound? Get up early, work Hard all day and you WILL sleep soundly in most cases.

Originally Posted by FAL

I wish the ambien was removed from the market, , stepsons wife is addicted to it and they Both do strange things while under the influence, NOTHING BUT TROUBLE. Trust Me on that.

Want to know how to sleep sound? Get up early, work Hard all day and you WILL sleep soundly in most cases.

I wish I could, I used to have 2 jobs and making house payments when I lived in the ATL (1996 to 2008). In 1992 I had 2 steel rods implanted into my spine because of a double curve scoliosis, didn't hurt me at all while I was framing, painting, roofing houses or delivering car parts for a car dealership. Then 2008 hit and I lost both jobs and my house, chapter 7 and I'm back a home, no luck finding jobs because of my back, which started hurting bad 3 years ago, 5 lower vertbra went to hell and now I'm on the "patch" "the pills" tore my guts up after a while so I can't take them anymore. I may be headed for another operation. Now just pulling weeds in the flower bed or maintaining my garden flares it up and the patches can't catch up. buying and shaving with straight razors is my only hobby now, I used to shoot flintlock rifles for fun but now the recoil hurts to much.

Originally Posted by Suticat

Hate giving that stuff at work to people for the first time. Ive had to tie people down in four point leather restraints to keep them from hurting themselves and others until that crap wears off. Even had a patient go awol and end up at his kids school at 3am trying to pick his kid up. Broke in and was wandering around lost when cops showed up. He got arrested and eventually found guilty regardless of the fact that his Dr showed up to testify on his behalf. People do a lot weird stuff on ambient and have no recall. The guy I tied down was asked how he slept and he said it was the best night sleep he's ever had. LOL not for me or the rest of the hospital it wasn't. He didn't recall any of it.

Man, how scary. A guy could get killed doing crazy stuff in a sleep induced blackout. I would imagine it's happened before.

ChrisL

Btw, this forum has been very nice I've learned a lot about straights since I've joined. Rad is tough on a strict budget., Maybe that's why I go for the $30.00 and under razors. I'm almost always trying to bid down a "Buy It Now" price.

Originally Posted by Speedster

Really too bad you are not in a Cannabis legal state. As BigSpenDur says, avoid the drugs. I'm a BP II and finally off Rx medications and only on what's legally available in WA. I'm pretty much retired but for some P-T work in my post-unemployment future...likely getting that mid-nightly paid workout at UPS again. 20 hrs per week and better benefits than most any corporation in the country thanks to Teamsters!!

Going back to Ambian. When I had a really serious bout of depression and insomnia combined, I was in a very deep, dark place. I still cannot believe I survived that nearly 4.5 year period. All thanks to this gawdawful drug called GEODON! Evil shit makes you sleep 15+ hrs per day, and if not, like say you working for a living like me, then every day you want to die. Die quickly!

I moved a friend in and her daughter to keep me from going into the garage for one last time.

Good choice on having the friend and her daughter keeping an eye on you. I am glad the Geodon helped you through that period, and you are off it now, it is a heavy duty anti-psychotic among other things and has a side effect that can be deadly.

Hope the UPS deal works out for you. Remember to just take things one day at a time and to be here now at any time.
Best of luck to you.

I've begun having my own trials and tribulations with sleep or lack thereof.

I listen to a podcast by the name of "Security Now" with Steve Gibson of Spinrite fame. While he's not a doctor, he is quite intelligent and has been suffering from poor sleep as he ages. His research into the subject can be found here: https://www.grc.com/health/sleep/hea...ep_formula.htm

I used to be able to sleep anywhere, anytime and was quite frustrated with my ever so light sleeping wife, who would, if ever so slightly disturbed, jump out of bed and stay awake until the next night, only to have trouble sleeping again.

Steve Gibson is on the trail of a supplement solution and his original *formula* was not cheap and had about a 50% success rate on people who tried it. Due to one of the supplements being "improved" and no longer suitable for his formula, he started from scratch and came up with a 2 capsule formula that appears to be much more successful.

He does caution that this is NOT for people who have trouble falling asleep, but rather for those who frequently wake up and thus have poor quality sleep. I had mixed results from the previous formula and I'm waiting for one of the two ingredients to come back in stock so I can try the new formula. Being in Canada makes it hard to source things sometimes.... what might be $10 in Amazon.com is close to $100 in Amazon.ca and so we need to shop around and find someone who sells at a reasonable price AND is willing to ship to Canada at a reasonable cost.

So, this may or may not be of help to the original poster, but hopefully someone here does find it of use.

Regards

Christian

Well to answer your original question. The Ambien CR is not as good as the regular Ambien. I was on the cr and asked to be put back on the regular Ambien. I don't take it anymore. I wake up every hour or so all night long. Never sleep more than 2 hrs straight. been like that since I can remember. Even with the Ambien. I just fell asleep faster with it. Good luck.

I've never had any bad things happen while on it, It just puts me to sleep while if I don't take something I just stare at the ceiling all night long, The Ambian Cr. works but just as well as the regular stuff. Oh, well.

I have trouble sleeping too, T&O. I have to basically wake up early, work at least 12 hours, eat a natural diet void of processed foods, dim the lights, and refrain from computers in order to keep a regular sleeping schedule. It's a full time gig.
Nature likes variety, and I would be happy with a 28 hour day. The conscious mind may like an industrialised world, but I don't believe the body does.
Try watching the sunrise and sunset, walking if you can, and removing ingredients which have no place in a human.