Thread: Bug Out/Survival bags. Anyone gottem?

Originally Posted by TheGeek

As getting caught on a hill in Scotland unprepared can and will kill you.

Really ? I would have figured that for Chicago, NYC, or Washington DC, but Scotland ?

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Really ? I would have figured that for Chicago, NYC, or Washington DC, but Scotland ?

Definitely - when I biked through England, we were in and around Pangbourne I believe, when for a hike up the side of a mountain, beautiful rivers and streams, came out onto flat plains, covered in Moors. Very deceptive, looks flat, but filled with dips and crevices.

We were there around 430pm, suddenly it started getting dark, we realized we had no idea where we were, we were lost on a featureless black landscape, and it started getting very cold and a huge fog descended on the entire area. Thankfully we had parked our biked at, "The Hiker's Bar", where we'd met a few locals over a pint of Theakson's Old Peculiar, and when we hadn't shown up by 7pm, they were about to send out a party to look for us.

We were both in shorts and t-shirts, but being very much used to the cold, and in good shape, we gave up trying to find our way back and just started jogging down the side of the mountain, we hit cow fields, then finally hit a road. Another 7km jog and we walked back into the bar....

There was much amusement, and then some stern warning, lots and lots of people had died on the Moors we were told...we had nothing with us, we were stupid, and as a result, almost won ourselves a Darwin Award.

O.K. Phrank ,, who were you guys running from ??

Originally Posted by Hirlau

O.K. Phrank ,, who were you guys running from ??

Our stupidity, fear, and werewolves....

Also the thought of being exhumed from some Moor 5000 years in the future and being revived by Aliens....other than that, all good.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

O.K. Phrank ,, who were you guys running from ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJP6Pi07AUw

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In the eighties, before it was vogue, and long before there was reality TV shows about it, I lived off grid. For entertainment I used to go for long hikes and try to see how little gear I could bring to survive the week in the woods. It was great fun. Many many great long solo hikes, with very limited gear and great memories. It does get very very quiet out there.

Originally Posted by RezDog

In the eighties, before it was vogue, and long before there was reality TV shows about it, I lived off grid. For entertainment I used to go for long hikes and try to see how little gear I could bring to survive the week in the woods. It was great fun. Many many great long solo hikes, with very limited gear and great memories. It does get very very quiet out there.

Hehehe I knew we were friends for a reason

I used to love heading into the Colorado high country in April to camp, the challenge was getting caught in a Spring snowstorm...

Sometimes I look back in awe at the crazy stuff I did and I am surprised I am still around

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Really ? I would have figured that for Chicago, NYC, or Washington DC, but Scotland ?

Hill walking in Scotland can be *really* deceptive. Loads of walkers start out at the base in shorts, t-shirt, and runners, and then they die on the hill. The problem is exactly like Phrank described. What starts out as a beautiful warm sunny day at the base turns into a deadly combination of wet and cold (many are lost to hypothermia) along with terrible visibility (many others get turned around and step off a cliff in the fog).

My solution? Go to Ben Nevis, look up the hill, turn left to the Ben Nevis Inn, grab a table, a pint, and some lunch, and enjoy the view.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Really ? I would have figured that for Chicago, NYC, or Washington DC, but Scotland ?

In Scotland there is an amecdotal phrase... 4 seasons in a day.

It is in reality however far from anecdotal. You can start off at the base of a hill on a gorgeous day amd before you reach the summit snow has closed in.

Geek

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