Thread: who likes custom knives?

Originally Posted by Jonedangerousli

Given that I'm just about 100% sure that I'm not going to have a martial arts expert break into my home I'm pretty confident that we'll never have to find out.

This distance counts for anyone, regardless of training.

as far as draw time... I carry Mexican a lot so my concealment might be better than my duty rig.
This 21 standard was established as "dang I almost got one off " range in the 80's
Most cops then were using level 1 holsters
almost all now use level 4

level 1 = snap strap
level 2 = locking rotating hood
level 3 = an additional lock to keep the hood from unlocking (you lock the lock)
level 4 = something like ALS that requires a button to me manipulated inside the holster release the weapon or having to rock or twist the weapon in a certain sort of way.
Although these advances in weapon retention capabilities (it took everyone at least 1 minute to release my weapon from it's holster (level 3) when I just handed it to them and told them to take their time, imagine under duress) they have slowed the draw and no doubt cost officers their lives due to a lack of other options causing an over reliance on thier sidearm.

There is also a level 14 holster which involves having Lou follow you around until someone tries a gun grab. At this point Lou starts mumbling..... ...."whatever"
.... which diverts the assailants attention away from you allowing you to draw and fire unimpeded.........

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

This distance counts for anyone, regardless of training.

Gotcha. I was trying to preempt a possible "martial arts v. firearm" discussion.

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

There is also a level 14 holster which involves having Lou follow you around until someone tries a gun grab. At this point Lou starts mumbling..... ...."whatever"
.... which diverts the assailants attention away from you allowing you to draw and fire unimpeded.........

That's funny right there. whatever

LOL, J.

So was I.

There is no argument to have.

I am a gun nut AND involved in martial arts.

A basic understanding of military combatives will improve your odds, but mostly by making you realize the limitations of your weapon.


If I had to choose, I shit you not, between my proficiency in firearms (which is, to borrow a phrase from R. Lee Ermy " OUT-FUCKING-STANDING" )
and just being "real good" at a decent martial art (one of the FMA maybe)
I would choose the martial art without a moments hesitation.

Run (what the hell is up with the text??) a drill Joni.
Put a big box behind the door so it can't smash the wall and have someone kick the door real hard(while unlatched of course) and try to charge where you sleep.
See how that ol bird gun works. It's a real reality check I'll tell you.
hell, have them run to every other room first, it's still humbling.

damn I'm off topic

LOL @ OT.

I sleep very lightly. Part of that is a throwback to working 24 hr shifts at the ambulance service. The "bird gun (LOL)" is next to my headboard. My house is a split level, master bedroom is at the top of 8 stairs. From the time the alarm sounds it takes me 5 seconds to be locked, loaded and aimed at the door. Trust me on this one. Unless he's wearing body armour it won't be a contest.

Are you guys preparing for urban warfare? is it that common to be assaulted in your own home?

Originally Posted by Bruno

Are you guys preparing for urban warfare? is it that common to be assaulted in your own home?

I saw someone's sig line that said (paraphrased) "I'd rather live my life like there was a God and find out that there wasn't than vice versa". For me it's something like that. I realize the odds of a home invasion in my neighborhood are pretty slim. I don't lie awake at night thinking about it, nor do I normally talk about it. This thread just seemed to move in that direction. I believe in being prepared, not just in this situation but in general, if that makes any sense.

I found a good set of stats but this thing won't accept the format
http://www.city-data.com/city/Orlando-Florida.html
go about half way down the page for crime stats

There were 58 murders in Orlando in 06.
They don't differentiate between burglaries and home invasions (what city would want to publish that data?) but in the last year I think I have written reports on 7 that occurred while i was on property (whichever property it was)
Of course I do work in the ghetto (non-jewish version) but you are crazy if you think that these people never leave the low income areas.

I personally knew two people who have been killed by home invaders.
One was from Kissimmee who I knew quite well, and the other from Poinciana who worked at an auto parts store I used to frequent.
(I admittedly have rather bad luck/ have lived in the less "Dunwoody" areas of town)
I was unable to find links to the news articles.. well.. because there were so many returns on a search for " Kissimmee man killed in home invasion "
Try searching for it.

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

I found a good set of stats but this thing won't accept the format
http://www.city-data.com/city/Orlando-Florida.html
go about half way down the page for crime stats

There were 58 murders in Orlando in 06.
They don't differentiate between burglaries and home invasions (what city would want to publish that data?) but in the last year I think I have written reports on 7 that occurred while i was on property (whichever property it was)
Of course I do work in the ghetto (non-jewish version) but you are crazy if you think that these people never leave the low income areas.

I personally knew two people who have been killed by home invaders.
One was from Kissimmee who I knew quite well, and the other from Poinciana who worked at an auto parts store I used to frequent.
(I admittedly have rather bad luck/ have lived in the less "Dunwoody" areas of town)
I was unable to find links to the news articles.. well.. because there were so many returns on a search for " Kissimmee man killed in home invasion "
Try searching for it.

LOL, I live on the cheap side of Dunwoody. I actually have an Atlanta address, but the street signs are Dunwoody. I only say I live in Dunwoody when I'm trying to impress someone, LOL. (Well, that and if you say you live in Atlanta you then have to narrow it down a little).

I know it's not always a low income neighborhood where home invasions occur. I was banking on my neighborhood being less affluent than some of the others in the area. If I were going to break into a place I'd be more likely to find one that looked like they actually had something to steal...

Much to my wife's chagrin, I have sharp objects all over the house.

Of course, we also have three rather large dogs; one very LARGE black lab mix, one pure chocolate lab and one basset hound. None of them are particularly fond of intruders. Any of the three would be enough to discourage even rather determined idiots from attempting a home invasion. Combined, they're a rather formidable obstacle and a truly superior alarm system.

We also live on a street that' sbusy enough to make it undesireable as a break-in target.

To make matters worse, the guy who owns this house, dogs and all those sharp objects has a really bad attitude when it comes to unwelcome guests.

I don't lose any sleep over home invasions, either. It would take a particularly stupid, determined and suicidal criminal to try us out and I rest comfortably knowing it would almost certainly be a career-ending mistake for anyone inclined to try.

I sleep next to 3 knifes within reaching distance. My black powder-coated fixed blade, full tang with wrapped hilt that my girlfriend got for me (6in blade) is right next to my head on the bed. In the sheath not out in the open!On the dresser pushed up against my bed i have my 4 in bladed serrated folder and my victorinox fireman pocket knife i use for work within reach. when I move out ill get into firearms more, but for now this is best because i have such a small house theres no time or space for anything else. I like to be prepared for anything that could happen no matter how unlikely it is. hmm what to do about aliens....