Thread: Pet Peeves?

Originally Posted by Hirlau

What a Crock !!!

Mortgages were being handed out like candy 15 to 20 years ago; a major part of the problem in 2008.

The economy plagued by international conflicts was a crutch for the younger generation?

Here's a photo of my grandfather's house(on wheels) in WWII, he had "5" kids (my mother included) at the time living in that house, with my grandmother taking care of them while he served his time in the Army. He was in his 30's at the time.
He left that mobile home after the war & built his own house with his son's on a piece of land in South Florida. Forty years later he was the second biggest farmer in South Florida & head of the Carpenter's Union. He died with "7" kids.



You getting a job, when others your age did not, had nothing to do with luck. You got up on your feet & went looking for one & didn't stop till you found it. The others that you talk of have lost or never found their drive. You tried harder than they did & you wanted a job. This is what made you successful & I really respect this.

People your age that are living back with their parents, have not exhausted their options, they have given up.

Minimum wage is a crutch for them? Well, tell that to the hundreds of thousands of migrant workers that make minimum wage or less & still manage to put their money together & exist outside of their parents homes. They dream of being a bank tellers(AC & heathcare) & convenience store employees.

On the flip side, I don't bash your generation or any other for that matter; success lies in the individual.

The mortgage crisis was precisely what I was referring to when referencing new requirements for loans and folks my age not being able to buy a house. A lot of the time I hear people complain about my generation renting instead of buying and how irresponsible that is without considering that many times that's the only option if you haven't put together 5 years of consistent and relatively high income because of the restrictions underwriters have to abide by now.
I never said the wars were a crutch for my or anyone else's generation. I should have been more specific. QE wasn't immediately an option for the economy because of the uncertainly of how a lot of things would turn out overseas. Wasn't a bailout for the millennial generation, certainly.
As for the story of your family. That is truly the American dream and something to hang your hat on without a doubt. Many of us have these stories passed down and they serve as real motivation for people who are fortunate enough to have families that stick together and can take pride in their heritage. Most of the people in my generation come from split families through no fault of their own. I'm not asking anyone to read any more into that than what I just said for fear of being accused of playing the blame game, but facts are facts.

I can say most assuredly that my ability to get a job after 2008 was a stroke of luck. I find it surprising that you have the confidence to state that it wasn't without having the slightest idea of my situation. There were people in my class that graduated with higher GPA's, interviewed for the same job, at the same time and were turned down. To this day I'm convinced that I was selected because I happened to be a Bears fan like the interviewer. Now if arbitrarily picking a sports team at the age of 6 to be a fan of and possibly getting a job because of that constitutes "hard work" then I'm a real hard worker!
I also said nothing about minimum wage or migrant workers. Generally speaking the arguments against millennial work ethic are limited to the US, or at the very least, developed countries. Migrant workers are an exception to this, and of course they continue to be the backbone of our country specifically because of their work ethic regardless of their generation. Though I will point out that many times migrant workers live in single houses with multiple generations living in the same home. I'm not sure how that's admirable, but when American citizens do it it's despicable. No one in my generation wants to live with their parents any more than anyone in your generation wanted to live with their parents. The very notion of that is somewhat comical.

I agree that relative success lies in the individual. But I would also say that it's really hard to pull yourself by the bootstraps when there is a foot on your chest and no bootstraps to grasp.