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    there is a constant struggle between the needs of the person and the needs of the many. Capitalism is the system which rewards a person for their own achievement, and allows sociatal movement. a person can come from nothing, and achieve more than most ever dream. You are correct that there is a growing gap between the "haves" and the "have nots", but this situtaion is global. I don't know of a society where this gap is not growing. However, I would rather have the ability to determine the outcome of my life, rather than rely upon the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhailey View Post
    there is a constant struggle between the needs of the person and the needs of the many. Capitalism is the system which rewards a person for their own achievement, and allows sociatal movement. a person can come from nothing, and achieve more than most ever dream. You are correct that there is a growing gap between the "haves" and the "have nots", but this situtaion is global. I don't know of a society where this gap is not growing. However, I would rather have the ability to determine the outcome of my life, rather than rely upon the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhailey View Post
    there is a constant struggle between the needs of the person and the needs of the many. Capitalism is the system which rewards a person for their own achievement, and allows sociatal movement. a person can come from nothing, and achieve more than most ever dream. You are correct that there is a growing gap between the "haves" and the "have nots", but this situtaion is global. I don't know of a society where this gap is not growing. However, I would rather have the ability to determine the outcome of my life, rather than rely upon the government.

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    My views.... since i'm sure you all wanted to hear them.

    I'm glad to live in a capitalist society.

    When you give someone something they haven't earned you take away their pride.
    You take away their drive, their self esteem.

    I have never received charity of any kind (public or private) and would be ashamed to.

    I like the fact that the harder I work, the more I will have.
    Not because material things are all important, but because I want to keep what I earn and not hve it taken and given to someone else.

    I despise the individual who disposes of what another has generated without care.

    A man who produces only to have it taken away with no restitution is a slave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr View Post
    My views.... since i'm sure you all wanted to hear them.

    I'm glad to live in a capitalist society.

    When you give someone something they haven't earned you take away their pride.
    You take away their drive, their self esteem.

    I have never received charity of any kind (public or private) and would be ashamed to.

    I like the fact that the harder I work, the more I will have.
    Not because material things are all important, but because I want to keep what I earn and not hve it taken and given to someone else.

    I despise the individual who disposes of what another has generated without care.

    A man who produces only to have it taken away with no restitution is a slave.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr View Post
    My views.... since i'm sure you all wanted to hear them.

    I'm glad to live in a capitalist society.

    When you give someone something they haven't earned you take away their pride.
    You take away their drive, their self esteem.

    I have never received charity of any kind (public or private) and would be ashamed to.

    I like the fact that the harder I work, the more I will have.
    Not because material things are all important, but because I want to keep what I earn and not hve it taken and given to someone else.

    I despise the individual who disposes of what another has generated without care.

    A man who produces only to have it taken away with no restitution is a slave.
    I always like to hear your views, GW, and generally I agree with you. As I do in this case.

    I'm not anti-capitalism. I didn't expect my previous post would be construed that way, actually, but there you go.

    Nor do I think altruism is the pinnacle of human accomplishment. But it appeared to me from previous posts that in order to remove some layers of government, what was needed was for people to self-moderate some of their behaviours. I was merely trying to point out that in a capitalistic system that rewards self-interested behaviour, this may be a little tricky and is perhaps why our countries appear so over-governed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I always like to hear your views, GW, and generally I agree with you. As I do in this case.

    I'm not anti-capitalism. I didn't expect my previous post would be construed that way, actually, but there you go.

    Nor do I think altruism is the pinnacle of human accomplishment. But it appeared to me from previous posts that in order to remove some layers of government, what was needed was for people to self-moderate some of their behaviours. I was merely trying to point out that in a capitalistic system that rewards self-interested behaviour, this may be a little tricky and is perhaps why our countries appear so over-governed.

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    Actually, I was surprised to hear such conservative views in one of your earlier posts.
    About liberties being whittled away and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr View Post
    Actually, I was surprised to hear such conservative views in one of your earlier posts.
    About liberties being whittled away and all.
    Yeah, I guess you could take that as conservative. It must be a cultural thing - pretty much people who speak out over here on the insidious removal of certain rights are basically left wing

    Something's getting lost in translation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I always like to hear your views, GW, and generally I agree with you. As I do in this case.

    I'm not anti-capitalism. I didn't expect my previous post would be construed that way, actually, but there you go.

    Nor do I think altruism is the pinnacle of human accomplishment. But it appeared to me from previous posts that in order to remove some layers of government, what was needed was for people to self-moderate some of their behaviours. I was merely trying to point out that in a capitalistic system that rewards self-interested behaviour, this may be a little tricky and is perhaps why our countries appear so over-governed.

    James.
    Gottcha James and good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaegerhund View Post
    Gottcha James and good point.

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    Thanks Justin - sorry I went about it in such a long-winded fashion.

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