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    Big, I don't know where you're getting these "facts "from, but PBS had a series about him, and your way off. Don't take my word for it, I will find a link for you and show you the facts.

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    He was living very well in an expensive apartment building, and as I said, it just happened to have two very large generators in it. Also as soon as he was dead the FBI was Jonny on the spot to take all his research papers, which were never seen again. I have watched everything there has been on him, one of my heroes. Can you imagine what the world would look like if they had backed him? One last thing, JP,cut off the money after he found out what he was really doing at Wardencliff, free power for everyone, that was his ultimate goal.
    I just looked it up, he was in the hotel New Yorker, definitely not a flea bag.
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    I'm not sure how he was planning to provide free power from Wardenclyffe, since it was to be powered by a coal generator. If his intention was to run a coal generator and provide free power, then JP Morgan would have been right to cut him off, there's no money in burning coal for free.

    The real reason however is more likely that his competitor was being backed as they had a current proven technology.

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    During his final years he started at the Woolworth Bldg and couldn't pay the rent and moved from place to place owing considerable sums of money. He wound up at the Hotel New Yorker and died there in debt.

    Probably the only reason the FBI took his things is because of his claims about a "Death Ray" and some other "Military" applications. Trump reviewed everything and said it was harmless stuff. Tesla's nephew Sava Kosanović shipped everything to Belgrade where the Museum is. The idea his inventions were salted away by the Govt borders on conspiracy theories. If his secret inventions were so great they would have been perfected over the years and they haven't. As I recall one invention was used in Auto Speedometers years after his death.

    Morgan refused to finance his "Free Electricity" because it was a bogus concept and would never work plus Morgan was dead and his family was calling the shots.

    I'm not saying Tesla wasn't a genius. He certainly was and was a rare individual however he was very eccentric bordering on crazy. Many of his inventions were impractical and just wouldn't work. He had a gripe with Physics and wouldn't accept the existence of the atom. He sued many over "his" inventions like Marconi and lost every lawsuit.

    His main interest at the end was talking to Pigeons like they were people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    During his final years he started at the Woolworth Bldg and couldn't pay the rent and moved from place to place owing considerable sums of money. He wound up at the Hotel New Yorker and died there in debt.

    Probably the only reason the FBI took his things is because of his claims about a "Death Ray" and some other "Military" applications. Trump reviewed everything and said it was harmless stuff. Tesla's nephew Sava Kosanović shipped everything to Belgrade where the Museum is. The idea his inventions were salted away by the Govt borders on conspiracy theories. If his secret inventions were so great they would have been perfected over the years and they haven't. As I recall one invention was used in Auto Speedometers years after his death.

    Morgan refused to finance his "Free Electricity" because it was a bogus concept and would never work plus Morgan was dead and his family was calling the shots.

    I'm not saying Tesla wasn't a genius. He certainly was and was a rare individual however he was very eccentric bordering on crazy. Many of his inventions were impractical and just wouldn't work. He had a gripe with Physics and wouldn't accept the existence of the atom. He sued many over "his" inventions like Marconi and lost every lawsuit.

    His main interest at the end was talking to Pigeons like they were people.
    It's my understanding that Westinghouse had been paying his bills at the Newy Yorker for quite some time.

    I think there has been a lot of confusion heaped on about "free electricity", to my understanding his whole plan was to transmit electricity wirelessly, how that electricity would be utilised is an open question, but the electricity was never produced for free, it took a standard method to produce (such as a coal generator), there may have been talk of pulling energy from the air, but that was energy transmitted by his tower and produced by a generator.

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    Yea like I said he had a settlement with Westinghouse which paid his bills to a point but the money ran out.

    He was going to make electric cars but they used steam and during WWl no one had interest in steam powered stuff. Many of his idea started with steam.

    His towers were going to emit electricity and devices would just soak up the current like electric airplanes. It made no real sense and was impractical.

    Yea a Westinghouse coal fired generator powered the whole thing. He planned to use a series of pipes and tunnels below the towers to tap into the Earth and use natural forces to create electricity and amplify it to huge currents.

    There are some folks who are trying to "duplicate" his towers but they are using modern theories and materials for a similar end result but the methods are totally different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGeek View Post
    I'm not sure how he was planning to provide free power from Wardenclyffe, since it was to be powered by a coal generator. If his intention was to run a coal generator and provide free power, then JP Morgan would have been right to cut him off, there's no money in burning coal for free.

    The real reason however is more likely that his competitor was being backed as they had a current proven technology.
    Actually, he wasn't burning anything. Wardencliff was designed to pull energy from the atmosphere, which he did in Colorado, but he stopped after getting complaints from farmers because there livestock that wore shoes were getting shocked. He effectively transmitted electricity ten miles wirelessly, something they say they can't do today.

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    No, even though he was a genius in electric things he also had a screw loose, he was in love with a particular pidgeon and wanted to marry it. That really doesn't take away all the things that he invented, some were claimed by Edison, a notorious credit hog. Tesla invented the very current that you use every time you plug something in.

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    Actually they ruled in his favor about who invented the radio...look it up. While your at it, you may come across the picture of lights stuck in the earth for quite a way, all lit by his idea that didn't work.
    I'm really shocked at you're position, this stuff isn't hard to find. Had he been paid instead of tearing up his contracts. It would have been a very different world. His papers are still kept secret, the stuff that was sent by his relatives was junk, you and I will never know what was in there. Imagine shutting down the electric companies, and oil industries. Never gonna happen. Go on Netflix or Amazon, there's a documentary. Very interesting..
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