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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtim View Post
    Why should public funds, over and above the insurance provided, go to the children of an employee of the government.
    Sadly, the military are the worst paid of government employees, while being in the highest risk jobs. To compare the death of soldier to that of a civilian employee is over simplistic, unless you are looking at it from a purely actuarial point of view.

    As a veteran and a former police officer, there is no comparison between the military and someone auditing your taxes or sitting on their rear-end on Capitol Hill, waiting for a lobbyist to tell them how to vote. Sure, there are military folks who never see any form of field duty or combat...but there is a risk of it happening. I cannot recall the last time the IRS or Dept. of Agriculture sent staff into combat (don't mess with them...their auditors!).
    Many military families have to have their incomes supplemented with food stamps to survive...and that is with free medical, commissary, and PX. Don't get excited about military health care...it can be hit or miss. I broke my collarbone - my orthopedic surgeon was th team doctor for the Red Sox who was doing his annual reserve active service...in the same hospital was a green card doctor from a third world country who could barely speak English and tried to insist I, in fact, should have never been admitted to the hospital...all he was supposed to do was refill a Motrin prescription.

    Benefits for the military cannot in anyway be compared to the benefits for civilian Federal employees...they are miles apart. Sadly, the way the US government treats its vets is shameful as well. There are no scholarships for the kids of vets funded by the government, not even if the vet is killed. The only benefit is if the vet wins the Medal of Honor, the kid can get a slot at one of the military academies.

    Many private charities support the vets and their kids with scholarships, grants, etc.: Veterans of Foreign Wars, American Legion, Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, Lions, etc. They step in because their is a need. Not so with civilian government employees.

    I hope RL can garner as much money as possible to help the military families, even if it is a publicity stunt.

    I find it interesting that many of those who make a show of supporting the military did everything they could to avoid wearing the uniform.....



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    Interestingly, one of the most successful programs has been the G.I. Bill in which the government paid directly without the private middle men of modern times, for the college education of veterans. In my opinion this contributed in a very significant manner to making the higher education in US what it is today.

    On the plus side the current auction status is 199 bids and $1,200,100.00
    If Rush Limbaugh keeps his word that is $2,400,200.00 which is more than the average annual budget of that charity. I only hope he is not advertising his matching statement on the auction page out of modesty and not because it would be out of context there.

    and for the record I have one minor disagreement with WB - the Cyrillic spelling of Bulgaria in Russian у->о

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    a bidding war!!!! 2,000,200.00USD/209bids/12h23min left

    And I've seen such winings here about the going prices of razors and hones....

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    I think you helped make the point that our, if not all governments, are largely inefficient!
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    Many military families have to have their incomes supplemented with food stamps to survive...and that is with free medical, commissary, and PX. Don't get excited about military health care...it can be hit or miss. I broke my collarbone - my orthopedic surgeon was th team doctor for the Red Sox who was doing his annual reserve active service...in the same hospital was a green card doctor from a third world country who could barely speak English and tried to insist I, in fact, should have never been admitted to the hospital...all he was supposed to do was refill a Motrin prescription.

    Benefits for the military cannot in anyway be compared to the benefits for civilian Federal employees...they are miles apart. Sadly, the way the US government treats its vets is shameful as well. There are no scholarships for the kids of vets funded by the government, not even if the vet is killed. The only benefit is if the vet wins the Medal of Honor, the kid can get a slot at one of the military academies.


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    I believe you mean ineffective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    I believe you mean ineffective.
    Now that you mention it,that too!

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    only in this particular case Generally, I avoid generalizations...

    oh, well it's a bit late for me but I'd be interested in discussing any/all of the previously mentioned points - most are still open, I think. And mildly on the topic - Rush Limbaugh's latest transcript confirms he will be matching the funds. I suspect he may be also getting a bonus for doing so, but it doesn't really matter. This charity it seems will be well funded for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    and for the record I have one minor disagreement with WB - the Cyrillic spelling of Bulgaria in Russian у->о
    I didn't have time to look it up...so is it with a U or O?


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    It went for $2,100,100.00! A philanthropist named Betty Casey won it!!

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