Thread: McCain frightens me!!!

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

I guess my point is that if my nation went to crap over a murderous unpredictable warbent dictator who took power thirty years previously and never allowed free elections, I would not fight against someone who comes to remove him.

Don't forget that for most of that time the US really liked having him there, he was our stronghold against communism in the middle east. That is, after all why we put him in power.

Originally Posted by Nickelking

Don't forget that for most of that time the US really liked having him there, he was our stronghold against communism in the middle east. That is, after all why we put him in power.

True - but rather than justifying what the US is doing, I'm only pointing out what I think I would do if I was on the other side. Of course I'm not on the other side and I can't say with perfect confidence how I would react to the US being there. If that were to happen in the US though, I wouldn't be trying to kill the madman's deposers - and maybe I'm a minorty to think that way

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

True - but rather than justifying what the US is doing, I'm only pointing out what I think I would do if I was on the other side. Of course I'm not on the other side and I can't say with perfect confidence how I would react to the US being there. If that were to happen in the US though, I wouldn't be trying to kill the madman's deposers - and maybe I'm a minorty to think that way

The problem is that you really can't speak of "Iraqis". There are many factions vying with each other for power. Then you have other outside players like Al Qaida and Iran (and others probably). Oh, and we didn't create the civil war, its been going on there for generations. Iron handed rule just kept it in check.

I would be curious to hear how some of our members who have been there would describe the situation with respect to the views of "Iraqis".

My biggest problem is that the administration seems to have chosen to believe that what they wanted to be reality was and would continue to be reality. They didn't look at the situation with any wisdom or objective realism. This is what happens with ideologues. W should have taken some lessons from his father before embarking on this poorly conceived adventure.

Jordan

Originally Posted by jnich67

My biggest problem is that the administration seems to have chosen to believe that what they wanted to be reality was and would continue to be reality. They didn't look at the situation with any wisdom or objective realism. This is what happens with ideologues. W should have taken some lessons from his father before embarking on this poorly conceived adventure.
Jordan

The Senate findings on what the Admin knew vs what the Admin said is expected to come out next week. It should be interesting.