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    Sorry for the double post, but I felt they belonged separate.

    Quote Originally Posted by LX_Emergency View Post
    Whenever someone says something negative about the US I hear at least ONE american pull out the "We saved your ass in WW2" card. I'm getting a bit sick of that.
    The irony here is that it was Churchill that got us to fight the Germans, He got the US population riled up against them. Even before Pearl Harbor he used the fact that he was half American to identify with the public and make them feel that they should be on their side against the Germans. Before that America was generally isolationist, without him we would have probably attacked Japan first, if we got involved with Germany at all. Most likely we would have left Europe to the Europeans. So even if we did "save your ass" it was thanks to Churchill that we did. (Ok Maybe Indiana Jones had a part in it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by trewornan View Post
    Winston Churchill's reputation is much overrated if you read up on him I think it's quite likely you'll come to the same conclusion I did - he was an a**hole, the right man in the right place at the right time, but still an a**hole.
    He rather was wasn't he? But, he was great at working the public. As for his ego and a**holishness, even as a child he claimed he was destined for great things.
    Last edited by Nickelking; 02-13-2008 at 11:54 AM. Reason: bad punctuation

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