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Thread: God and science
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03-05-2008, 10:11 AM #81
It appears that I've insulted someone in this thread.
Therefore I'll pull back from this topic.
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03-05-2008, 02:20 PM #82
I believe in God but not as a supernatural being that created the universe. I believe that the universe was created by the Laws of Physics. If I am wrong, God still used the laws of physics or is the Laws of Physics. God is not a magician. For me to believe in anything I need proof through rules of evidence. Science is the only religion that pursues this. Yes they get it wrong sometimes but they are not locked into something that is proved wrong later. A good example is evolution. Evolution is fact not theory. Most, if not all religions do not acknowledge this. The Laws of Physics were in place long before man appeared. All religious books [Bible, Koran, etc] were written by clerics who were trying to push their religion. They were written in a time that had little science or knowledge of the Universe.
So if I would have to have a religion it would be science. A religion that is not afraid of truth or the pursuit of truth. And if I must have a God it would be the sum of all the laws of physics.
bjDon't go to the light. bj
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03-07-2008, 08:59 PM #83
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Thanked: 150I saw Massimo Pigliucci (leading evolutionary biologist with a Ph.D. in genetics, botany AND philosophy) give a lecture once where he broke the argument of faith/belief in the word of the church vs. the word of the scientific community down to a simple notion of a track record. While science will never claim to have ALL of the answers, and always leaves the door open to further refinements of it's theories, it is the "safer bet" because of it's track record with explaining natural phenomena. Whereas the religious establishments of the world have been flat out embarrassed on topics they were fervent about maintaining an authority on time and again. So faith is a good term for both because there is no absolute certainty, but one is greater stretch of faith than the other and in that distinction we call it belief.
I say they can't get along because people try to mix and match, and use the two where they don't apply. Science explains how the world around us works. Religion sets a guideline for morality.
From there it is a choice which one you choose for which purpose.