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    My wife and I are in the process of selling our house. We've had a couple of offers, the first of which fell through because the buyer pulled out after 2 days (hadn't even done a pest and building inspection.... )

    Anyway, our real estate agent brought us a new offer from potential buyers who needed to sell their property first to enable them to buy our home. A bit of to-ing and fro-ing later, a contract was drawn up, with a clause that said the sale of our house was conditional on the buyers getting an unconditional contract on their house in 4 weeks time.... or so we thought.

    We signed the contract, after being reassured by our agent that the sale would go unconditional after 4 weeks, and then we'd have 6 weeks after that until settlement. The latter stipulation we were very clear about - it enables us to find a new home without having to store furniture and rent (if possible).

    Anyway, after we signed we found out a few things:

    (1) The buyers had made the offer two weeks before we were shown it - they asked our agent to wait to show us it so that they had more time to sell their house, and he did. I thought the selling agent was meant to do the best he could for the vendor...

    (2) The agent screwed up the clause - our solicitor tells us that the way the clause is worded means that, in fact, the sellers can legally pull out of the sale right up to and including the day of settlement! We could have the removalist there, a rental contract signed, and the bank ready to transfer the mortgage, and the whole thing could fall through.

    That our real estate agent is a moron is clear, and at first I was very "annoyed" at him (my wife and I asked him to confirm 5 different times that the clause said what we wanted it to say before we signed it, and each time he confirmed it).

    However, upon further reflection it is clear that it is I who is the moron for trusting the word of a non-legal specialist on the meaning of a clause in a legal document.

    I'm sure most of you know this already, but never, ever, ever, sign anything, no matter how much you trust the person or feel pressured to do so, without getting legal advice first. Even if the person is not trying to deliberately screw you over, there is every chance they are complete incompetents and do not know it. There's no-one else to blame but yourself if you don't.

    For my wife and I it's not the end of the world. But we've learned a valuable lesson that will never be forgotten.

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    I hear you James --- hope things turn out the best they can.


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    I wish you the best also! The humility you show is a rather uncommon virtue these days! It gives me hope!!

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    Thanks Justin and Mark. I'm sure things will work out OK in the end. Worst case scenario is we loose deposits with removalists and rental accommodation etc., so it's really not a huge issue in the grand scheme of things. We are quite lucky, actually - the consequences could have been way worse.

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    I don't know how it works in Australia, but here if someone is a professional in their field and give their professional advice about it, they are liable. It's presumable that as a real estate agent he is knowledgeable about housing contracts, so there may be some sort of recourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick Orange View Post
    I don't know how it works in Australia, but here if someone is a professional in their field and give their professional advice about it, they are liable. It's presumable that as a real estate agent he is knowledgeable about housing contracts, so there may be some sort of recourse.

    Very true.

    Also his withholding of the bid on behalf of the buyer would put him in a violation of his agreement with you as a sellers agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick Orange View Post
    I don't know how it works in Australia, but here if someone is a professional in their field and give their professional advice about it, they are liable. It's presumable that as a real estate agent he is knowledgeable about housing contracts, so there may be some sort of recourse.
    Here it's pretty much the same thing. Adding to that that a spoken contract is as valid as a written one and that he confirmed up to 5 times (verbally) that the contract was the way you wanted it.

    Offcourse the fact that you signed it doesn't help much then. But it still might hold up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LX_Emergency View Post
    Here it's pretty much the same thing. Adding to that that a spoken contract is as valid as a written one and that he confirmed up to 5 times (verbally) that the contract was the way you wanted it.

    Offcourse the fact that you signed it doesn't help much then. But it still might hold up.
    It shouldn't matter since they, being non-expert at legalese, were assured by an assumed expert 5 times pertaining to the terms. YMMV...

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    True. That's why I already said it might hold up.

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    Thanks for all the advice and support guys - it's much appreciated. We've decided at this point to re-negotiate the agent's commission with him, through our solicitor. We'll see what happens...

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