Thread: Banned from Badger and Blade

Originally Posted by Otis

The character of these two men taking this stand are good reasons to spend time at srp, not to hang out with little boys who decide to throw rocks at other windows and leave poop on their doorstep. Some of you are claiming to be a gentleman as you defiantly stand with pebbles in your angry little hands - the claim of being a gentleman doesn't make you one, by the way. It might be a good idea for you take off your crusade capes now and move on. Some of you are looking more petty than your intended target.

Gentlemen? Prove it.

Are you just shooting from the hip or have you been following the events that are being discussed? If you know something about the underlying dispute that no one else knows that makes what is said unfair I'd love to hear it.

Originally Posted by LX_Emergency

That's a little uncalled for as well.

Oh, I see. It's ok to throw the rocks. It's just uncalled for to point it out. I understand now. Carry on.

I've been at B&B for over a year now, SRP a bit less time, and owe both boards a debt of gratitude. That said, it seems that at B&B the signal:noise ratio seems to be dropping, and I'm nearly back to lurking there.

And God help you if you compare their beloved cologne purveyors to the more mass-market products.

I just want to chime in real quick to say that I'm glad the decision was made to let this thread play out. It has been enlightening for me, as I'm sure its been for others. And as others have said, the fact that discussions like these can be had here without devolving into pettiness and name calling is one of the reasons I enjoy SRP. The "riding the wave" analogy that someone made was spot-on.

Just one more thing...this place is full of superlative individuals who give superlative advice on straight shaving, and I want to thank you all for helping me achieve superlative results.

Guys twice now Don has asked for this to end and to let this topic go. I am asking the same now nothing will be accomplished by making more issues. Also nothing will be accomplished by having to lock the thread so lets show that we are the adults that we claim and let the topic end.

I need to clarify a bit by the way. I never said that Joel wasn't justified in critisicm. I'm sure he has his reasons for not being happy with something he spent (in my book) a lot of money on. I just didn't like the way he was badmouthing people.

That being said. I'm sure there was more to the story than I've seen. I'm sure there are e-mail exchanges and PM's that have been flying left and right that make SURE that I don't know half of what really took place.

Otis. You were right. But the manner in which you were adressing people was the same type of stone throwing that you were (rightfully) accusing people of.

Let's bury this gentlemen.

Originally Posted by shaveme

I will probably get roasted for this, but oh well.

did anyone actually read the threads that led to the bannings?

The RW review that led to papabull being banned started when Joel said RW razor was not worth the price he was charging. the jist i got was it was a good shaver just priced to high for what you got. then RW defended himself (rightfully so), which led to the s**t storm that got him banned.

The thread: is a str8 better than a de... the whole problem i have with what is being said here is Joel did not tell the guy to use a de not a str8. He basically said if you cant get the blade angle to work on a de you are going to have trouble with a str8.

And I responded with a straight is a different tool, why discount a member if he is getting razor burn.

and my thoughts on the custom razor thread over there. I feel that that thread was started with the intention of being a pot stirrer, just to ruffle feathers, to see someone get angry. If you had read the first few posts you would see it was a legit request for makers... nothing more, until Joel came in and bashed pretty much every maker but Zowada and Ellis. Hre specifically listed RW, and stupid me, I asked why

I admit the mood has changed over there in the last couple months or so, but i kind of thought it was just me losing interest. Then i thought maybe it was the surge in membership, maybe there was just a bunch of new people that wanted to blab about everything but shaving. Now i dont know what it is.

I know I have never had any dealing with Joel, but i can understand getting po'd when someone changes what you say, or a product is not what you expect.

Robert Williams from my dealing with him, he is a stand up guy. He sent me a str8 for the price of shipping, and i am grateful to him.

It is a shame the two of them couldn't work out a peaceful resolution, it is also a shame people keep stirring up old stuff, just to see some s**t fly,or to get banned. I take it you believe me to be the one who tried to stir up old stuff, unfortunately I knew nothing asbout it, and my last intention was to see s**t fly, or get banned.

Just my $.02

Thanks for letting me look around

Forgive me for taking your post personal, but my biggest mistake was stepping into a s**t storm I knew nothing about, and when things didn't hold true to me I stuck my head up and said hold on.
I was met with nothing but hostility from the owner of that forum, and for reasons I was unaware of, or were out of my control.
Yes I fought back(in the straight vs DE thread), I told him he was negative and unhelpful, and if he couldn't be constructive he should leave.
and YES I told him to go shave his legs with his DE. So what?

Being a gentleman doesn't mean you have to bend over and take crap from every fool and drunk out there. It means you accept what you can for what it is, and you deal with the remainder.
No man should be expected to take abuse with impunity especially when it is dished out with such malintent.


I am finished with this, i have said my peace, and it is time to move on.
My appologies to Don, Doc, and Lynn for continuing this thread, but sometimes the waters need to be cleared before we can ride the next wave.

ok. Does everyone have it out of their system now?

Let's leave this alone.

Originally Posted by LX_Emergency

ok. Does everyone have it out of their system now?

Let's leave this alone.

We're trying to have a discussion here. You've made your point repeatedly Alex. We get it. When everybody's ready to drop it it'll drop. Till then, we'll strive to discuss in a gentlemanly manner. That's our way.

X

Xman
You have been banned for the following reason:
getting testy with the moderators...
Date the ban will be lifted: when you can play nice again

sorry, i couldn't resist