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04-17-2008, 07:24 PM #21
"So you believe that everything we see before us just happened?
There are many hypothesis (note that I didn't say theories or facts) about the beginning of the universe. Are we not allowed to question these ideas that are put forth as facts that, unless we had a time machine, could never really be known?"
A lot of folks have a hard time with the concept of "the beginning", i.e. where did "what is" come from? Two answers: it is faulty logic to assume there was a time when "what is" never was. In other words, just as there is no end to infinity, there is no beginning. Everything "always was". Hard for the human mind to comprehend this, but to me it's more illogical to postulate there was a time when things "never where". There is no logical reason why the universe could not have always existed. Second answer: we will never, ever know. No one will ever know. It's impossible to know, so just live with that.
Now I know the response to all this--the "never was" idea is illogical. There must have been a beginning and if there is "something" as opposed to "nothing", someone must have created the "something". QED--the creator theory. Only problem is--to postulate the existence of a creator, who always existed and wasn't him/herself created, violates all of the same rules that folks claim are violated by postulating the existence of an infinite universe with no beginning.
In other words, if there is a creator who has always existed, why can't the universe have always existed?