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    Default TIPS ON PUMPING GAS

    This was sent to me by a friend, and although the prices are a little out of date, I thought it was interesting...
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    I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in
    California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line
    of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to
    get more of your money's worth for every gallon..

    Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we deliver
    about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is
    diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades.
    We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.


    Only buy or *fill up your car or truck in the early morning* when the ground
    temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their
    storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense
    the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the
    afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the
    petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the
    gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays
    an important role.

    A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
    service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

    When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast
    mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)stages: low,
    middle, and high. In slow mode you should be *pumping on low speed*, hereby
    minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at
    the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some
    other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being
    sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less
    worth for your money.

    One of the most important tips is to *fill up when your gas tank is HALF
    FULL* or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your
    tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster
    than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof.
    This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so t
    minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, ever
    truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is
    actually the exact amount.

    Another reminder, *if there is a gasoline truck pumping* into the storage
    tanks when you stop to buy gas, *DO NOT fill up*--most likely the gasoline
    is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up
    some f the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help
    you get the most value for your money.

    DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

    WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON

    Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might
    even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should
    return the favor.

    An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.

    Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the
    coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import
    their oil from the Saudis.

    Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the
    tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family,
    and my friends.

    I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are
    the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern
    oil.

    These companies import Middle Eastern oil:

    Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels

    Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels

    Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels

    Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels

    Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels

    Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you
    do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is
    now $90 - $100 a barrel

    Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

    Sunoco..................0 barrels

    Conoco..................0 barrels

    Sinclair.................0 barrels

    B P/Phillips............0 barrels

    Hess.......................0 barrels

    ARC0....................0 barrels

    If you go to Sunoco.com , you will get a list of the
    station locations near you.

    All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each
    is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
    importing.

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    Hi Mike,

    In a Dutch TV-program this subject was covered a while back. They were aware of the density-change of the gasoline, but they solved it in some way. So whether you buy your gas in the morning, evening or afternoon, it doesn't matter.

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    Thanks Mike, good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gentleman View Post
    Hi Mike,

    In a Dutch TV-program this subject was covered a while back. They were aware of the density-change of the gasoline, but they solved it in some way. So whether you buy your gas in the morning, evening or afternoon, it doesn't matter.

    The way they "solved" it around here is to put a sign on the pump telling you that due to temperature differences each gallon pumped may differ in its energy capacity.

    Problem "solved" gas station owners butt is now covered.

    We of course just have to deal.

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    Thanks for the info Mike. Food for thought at least.

    I've been avoiding citgo for a while, but its good to see who brings oil in from where. Luckily, I have a Sunoco nearby and use them most of the time.

    Jordan

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    Oh, what's the deal with LukOil(sp?). I've been seeing a lot more their stations around here lately.

    Jordan

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    Hmmm, well maybe it's a whole different ballgame there. Maybe the temperatures at night and during the day differ a lot less, than overthere in the US?

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    Mike do the same rules apply for diesel when it comes to ground temerature?

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    "Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the
    tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family,
    and my friends." - unidentified person

    Right, that makes so much sense. Is it less frustrating that those middle-eastern oil purchasing companies employ thousands of U.S. citizens? Maybe those companies are just fattening them up so they can kill them later? Such frustration seems to me to be no more than an easy, simplistic excuse to pass the blame for one's own frustrations.
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