Thread: Senator Obama's Memorial day speech!

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Comments, good or bad, are welcome! I will reply with mine later!

Pretty typical Memorial Day speech, although, since it's Obama, it was more eloquent than most. Hit all the right points.

As an aside, my son sat next to Bill Richardson at a graduation last week. He also speaks well. The statement that stuck with me was "You don't make peace with your friends; you make it with your enemies."

As the last remaining superpower (pending China's emergence), I don't see why we have to fear diplomacy.

j

Diplomacy with terrorists? Obviously you've already forgotten 911 and/or don't have any loved one been a victim of the attacks.
Besides, the terrorists only interest is to destroy democracy.
If you have any doubts find out what the Castros, Chavez of the world are trying to accomplish.

But what can you expect, the only thing the man can do is "talk"

I think that was the best of the three, I'm glad to see he didn't use it as a platform to continue talking about Webbs GI Bill.

How do I get sucked into this stuff! I think it is becoming disorder but here goes.

I am sorry, there are people you can not sit down and have a rational discussion with, ask former President Carter! Hezbollah handed Carter his hat in his hand. How can you possibly negotiate with an organization that says they want to see the Jews wiped off the face of the earth. I am confused sometimes. People will not listen to what leaders have to say. What? They don't mean it? Oh I see they are simple people with simple minds that do not know what they are saying. OH, they are doing it for the votes or for political gain? Iran's leader is saying the same thing.

The reason that Hitler is invoked in a lot of these discussions is that he is the the poster child for telling the world what he would do. The responses of many world leaders was the same.OH! He doesn't mean it, he is doing it for political gain......

Why is it that people will not listen to what they say! They really do mean it folks! There are people that want to kill you, and in many different ways that you, as civilized humans, can not comprehend !!!


Later,
Richard

Interesting little sidelines, but lets answer the original question first, and then peaceably talk about the side lines!

Originally Posted by riooso

How do I get sucked into this stuff! I think it is becoming disorder but here goes.

I am sorry, there are people you can not sit down and have a rational discussion with, ask former President Carter! Hezbollah handed Carter his hat in his hand. How can you possibly negotiate with an organization that says they want to see the Jews wiped off the face of the earth. I am confused sometimes. People will not listen to what leaders have to say. What? They don't mean it? Oh I see they are simple people with simple minds that do not know what they are saying. OH, they are doing it for the votes or for political gain? Iran's leader is saying the same thing.

The reason that Hitler is invoked in a lot of these discussions is that he is the the poster child for telling the world what he would do. The responses of many world leaders was the same.OH! He doesn't mean it, he is doing it for political gain......

Why is it that people will not listen to what they say! They really do mean it folks! There are people that want to kill you, and in many different ways that you, as civilized humans, can not comprehend !!!


Later,
Richard

All enemies are willing to talk. Like Japan after we kicked the pee out of them. This country is in need of a warrior as president. Bush has been a simple wimp. If Osama had our resources the war would have long been over.

Amen brother!

Originally Posted by Navaja

Diplomacy with terrorists? Obviously you've already forgotten 911 and/or don't have any loved one been a victim of the attacks.
Besides, the terrorists only interest is to destroy democracy.
If you have any doubts find out what the Castros, Chavez of the world are trying to accomplish.

But what can you expect, the only thing the man can do is "talk"

You don't know me or what I remember. You don't know where I've been or what I've lost. Your take on diplomacy is simplistic.

But keep talking. There may be someone out there who doesn't have your measure yet.

Originally Posted by Navaja

Diplomacy with terrorists? Obviously you've already forgotten 911 and/or don't have any loved one been a victim of the attacks.

That attack was carried out by a handful of terrorists. Not by a country.
There is no reason at all not to talk with foreign governments.

Originally Posted by Navaja

Besides, the terrorists only interest is to destroy democracy.

Really? They might actually be a bit annoyed with the US meddling in the internal politics of their home countries. If the US had done to Belgium what it had done to Iran and Iraq, I'd hold a grudge to if my family was killed in the upheavals.
Do you really expect those people to shrug it off and forgive the US?
The present situation in Iraq and Iran was caused by the US. Both Saddam in Iraq and the fundies in Iran were helped into power by the CIA, causing thousands to die.
Btw, the gov in Iran at that time was democratically elected. It just commited the capital sin of not agreeing with the US.

Originally Posted by Navaja

If you have any doubts find out what the Castros, Chavez of the world are trying to accomplish.

And what is Chavez trying to accomplish?

Originally Posted by Navaja

But what can you expect, the only thing the man can do is "talk"

The curent administration has shown what the results are of the cowboy approach.
They'd have gotten further if they had talked. Not to mention they'd have saved themselves trillions of dollars.