Thread: Senator Obama's Memorial day speech!

Diplomacy with terrorists? Obviously you've already forgotten 911 and/or don't have any loved one been a victim of the attacks.
Besides, the terrorists only interest is to destroy democracy.
If you have any doubts find out what the Castros, Chavez of the world are trying to accomplish.

But what can you expect, the only thing the man can do is "talk"

I think that was the best of the three, I'm glad to see he didn't use it as a platform to continue talking about Webbs GI Bill.

How do I get sucked into this stuff! I think it is becoming disorder but here goes.

I am sorry, there are people you can not sit down and have a rational discussion with, ask former President Carter! Hezbollah handed Carter his hat in his hand. How can you possibly negotiate with an organization that says they want to see the Jews wiped off the face of the earth. I am confused sometimes. People will not listen to what leaders have to say. What? They don't mean it? Oh I see they are simple people with simple minds that do not know what they are saying. OH, they are doing it for the votes or for political gain? Iran's leader is saying the same thing.

The reason that Hitler is invoked in a lot of these discussions is that he is the the poster child for telling the world what he would do. The responses of many world leaders was the same.OH! He doesn't mean it, he is doing it for political gain......

Why is it that people will not listen to what they say! They really do mean it folks! There are people that want to kill you, and in many different ways that you, as civilized humans, can not comprehend !!!


Later,
Richard

Interesting little sidelines, but lets answer the original question first, and then peaceably talk about the side lines!

my take on his speech:

I didn't even take the time to listen to it. I know he is a good speaker, and I'm sure his speach writers have been working on this one for a while so I'm sure it would be a pretty bunch of words.

Since I neither respect the man or can stomach his positions and I know that if he had to speak completely impromptu it would be a completely different sounding presentation, I think listening to it would simply cause me heartburn, something I can easily do without.

Obama is a great speaker. IMO thats all he is. He could bottle horse piss and sell it as an elixer/rejuvenator. He is simply a salesman banging his drum. For equal time simply replace the name Obama with that of Hillary or McCain, and I will still approve this message.

I dunno. Obama's speeches seem to be of a piece with his writings. The man we see in Dreams From My Father and The Audacity of Hope is a pretty thoughtful guy, and very impatient with both political posturing (and partisanship) and Democratic pandering.

That's why I wasn't surprised with the decent tone of his Memorial Day speech. It was consistent with what he's said he believes all along.

I agree that pretty speeches don't a statesman make, but in a race of this kind, what's wrong with listening to the guy (or gal) who's at least smart enough to say the right things?

Originally Posted by Wildtim

my take on his speech:

I didn't even take the time to listen to it. I know he is a good speaker, and I'm sure his speach writers have been working on this one for a while so I'm sure it would be a pretty bunch of words.

Since I neither respect the man or can stomach his positions and I know that if he had to speak completely impromptu it would be a completely different sounding presentation, I think listening to it would simply cause me heartburn, something I can easily do without.

I can hardly blame you! I only searched it out and listened to it to research a statement someone made about his speach! When listening, three things sort of reached out and slapped me across the face. 1) Gov. Richardson introduced Sen. Obama, and during the introduction he kept going back and forth between English and spanish! 2) In the beginning of Obama's speech he made an interesting blunder. He said something to the effect that this day was to honor our fallen hero's, many of whom I see sitting in the audience. 3) The tone of his speech! Yes, he said many pretty things. Many of which I agree, but there was no passion that I could hear in his voice. In fact I thought he sounded like he was bored, and reading from a script! This surprised me because I normally think he sounds great and awe inspiring, but the actual content to me is either void of any real substance, or I plain disagree with him! This time I mostly agreed with the substance, but the delivery was void and insipid!

Originally Posted by riooso

How do I get sucked into this stuff! I think it is becoming disorder but here goes.

I am sorry, there are people you can not sit down and have a rational discussion with, ask former President Carter! Hezbollah handed Carter his hat in his hand. How can you possibly negotiate with an organization that says they want to see the Jews wiped off the face of the earth. I am confused sometimes. People will not listen to what leaders have to say. What? They don't mean it? Oh I see they are simple people with simple minds that do not know what they are saying. OH, they are doing it for the votes or for political gain? Iran's leader is saying the same thing.

The reason that Hitler is invoked in a lot of these discussions is that he is the the poster child for telling the world what he would do. The responses of many world leaders was the same.OH! He doesn't mean it, he is doing it for political gain......

Why is it that people will not listen to what they say! They really do mean it folks! There are people that want to kill you, and in many different ways that you, as civilized humans, can not comprehend !!!


Later,
Richard

All enemies are willing to talk. Like Japan after we kicked the pee out of them. This country is in need of a warrior as president. Bush has been a simple wimp. If Osama had our resources the war would have long been over.

Could I just add that, coming from a country that's had one or two more terrorist attacks than the US, the only way - in the long run - to achieve peace is to talk to your enemy. It took us a very long time to learn that lesson. As for Obama's speech - I have enough trouble deciphering our politicians speeches, let alone yours..