Clinton stealing Obama's thunder

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahaha
I love it
Sorry but I am a Gun-toting, Red Blooded all Conservative AMERICAN....
And anything that hurts the Liberals makes me giggle!!!! (Notice I said Liberals not the Democratic party because that party is not being represented in this election)

Glen, you forgot 'gun making' :)
see, they can't even take your guns as you can just make another one

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Originally Posted by gugi

I hope she really doesn't need a time to reconsider the situation, as that'll mean she's been very arogant and delusional over the last few weeks and not have an exit plan in place. From what I've seen I think more likely this is her exit plan - while still having some sort of leverage to push for place on the ticket. If that's the case it certainly shows determination but I doubt that's the top quality Obama is looking for.

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She is very arrogant. Despite the fact that I don't think Obama is all that bright I don't think he is stupid enough to under any circumstances put her only one of his heartbeats away from the presidency. I mean the secret service doesn't provide food tasters and he has to sleep sometime.

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Originally Posted by gugi

I don't think that's the case - she's just positioning herself into getting as much leverage as possible. She seems to have lost the nomination, but that was rather close, so she wants to get as much as possible out of it. That's just being pragmatic. Whether it's appropriate in this situation is another issue and you'll find people on both sides of that argument.

My opinion is that she can't secure a VP nomination that early - Obama isn't that dumb, so by not conceding quickly she just looses the opportunity to pretend she's not a sore looser (and no matter how they play it all politicians are sore loosers).

I hope she really doesn't need a time to reconsider the situation, as that'll mean she's been very arogant and delusional over the last few weeks and not have an exit plan in place. From what I've seen I think more likely this is her exit plan - while still having some sort of leverage to push for place on the ticket. If that's the case it certainly shows determination but I doubt that's the top quality Obama is looking for.

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From the coverage tonight, it looks like she was going to keep clinging to her obsession as her future rotted away, but her supporters in congress told her to cut it out and concede. I think we've gotten a look at her character that people won't forget. Had she been a gracious loser and got out a month or two ago, she'd be the prohibitive favorite in 4 or 8 years for the Democratic ticket. Now I bet she's done - after being effectively knocked out, she has injected all kinds of racial and gender animosity, and single handedly planted in everyone's mind the idea that Obama can't win. And why do all that AFTER being effectively knocked out. Because she is a divisive stubborn obsessed politician - not a leader. Buy bye.

Anyway, good news is we finally can get down to an election between two interesting and decent candidates, and the creepy crazy person is out of it.

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Originally Posted by loueedacat

....good news is we finally can get down to an election between two interesting and decent candidates, and the creepy crazy person is out of it.

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Sadly, I don't see that as being the case.....

The "Machine" won't shut down anytime soon.....


v/r

Allen

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Originally Posted by loueedacat

Anyway, good news is we finally can get down to an election between two interesting and decent candidates, and the creepy crazy person is out of it.

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What did Obama pullout too?

Or did McCain?

Which creepy crazy person are we talking about again?

Frankly I wouldn't let kids take Halloween candy from any of these characters.

I read yesterday that the difference in delegates is 10%. If that happens in a general election, people call it a landslide victorym so it was not that close.

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Originally Posted by loueedacat

I also suspect this is as much a character flaw as it is tenaciousness - she just can't accept that she lost and that it's not her show anymore. And I really really hope he doesn't pick her as VP or he'll be dealing with this all campaign [there's the independent in me - the Republican in me hopes she keeps shooting her mouth off and scaring liberals into the arms of McCain].

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I'm glad to see that I am not the only one who sees this.

This display from Ms. Clinton is an example of why she will never get my vote. Personally, I feel that these quoted actions above are a perfect example of a candidate who should not even be considered for that seat in the US government. Her constant campaigning tells me that she cannot view the writing on the wall. We - as a country - need someone with more intelligence, grace, tact, and personality for the office. She's proved (to me) she doesn't have what it takes... and it's not because she's a woman .. or something just as silly. Her actions are enough for me. Actually, I think the crying bit in the Mass. (I think) primary sealed the deal for me. Leaders of a country ... any country .. dont publicly weep over being critisized during the critisizing. That was the point during her running when she went from -possibility- to -complete joke-. She can't take the heat.

The last thing I would want is the pres. of the US to turn on the water works during an international political meeting.


Clinton certainly doesn't repersent me... and I dont think she ever will.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

I read yesterday that the difference in delegates is 10%. If that happens in a general election, people call it a landslide victorym so it was not that close.

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absolutely, and it's not just that - they've been saying since before Ohio and Texas that she had no chance to catch him on the numbers based on the most positive plausible results she could get - she just stayed in because she hoped to win by cheating - either gettying the Mich or Fla vote in the most Hilary postitive way and convincing superdelegates in back rooms to throw the black guy under the bus. She is revolting even by political standards. This race was over after Obama won ten straight and if she had any class she would have dropped out and congratulated him then.

What ever her reasons, the dems are getting all the TV time . . . McCain gets forgotten! I realize there will be five months until the election, but it seems to me that there is an organized effort to keep the tv cameras on the names Obama and Clinton. Next chapter (after who will be Obama's VP): Will Hillary run as an independent (write in)?

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RalphS