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    I cannot speak for W, but I find Gore acutely annoying! And it is not the smarmy, smug sense of superiority and satisfaction he exudes. Dubious environmental issues not withstanding, the man doesn't even pretend to practice what he preaches. What should I expect? The Cabernet Communists want to tell us how to live our lives, not to lead by example. Let them drink Gallo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessorChaos! View Post
    I cannot speak for W, but I find Gore acutely annoying! And it is not the smarmy, smug sense of superiority and satisfaction he exudes. Dubious environmental issues not withstanding, the man doesn't even pretend to practice what he preaches. What should I expect? The Cabernet Communists want to tell us how to live our lives, not to lead by example. Let them drink Gallo!
    I'm not a particular fan of Gore either, but I have enough on my hands disliking people who actually drive policy to spend time worrying about him.

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    I pee in the ocean too.

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    I've met plenty of politicians in my life, on both sides of the aisle, and I'm afraid they're universally (or nearly so) a bad lot. With very rare exceptions, their sole interest is their own advancement. The fact that it's the voters' fault for demanding that a person be that sort of bird doesn't make it any easier to swallow.

    Unfortunately, for all their flaws, they're the instruments we must use to manage our world.

    Gore certainly isn't the worst, but he is a politician, which means he likes being the center of attention and believes in his own actions. A lot of his negative image, frankly, is the result of some very effective swiftboating that the repugs did before and during the 2000 election cycle. For example, he never said that he "invented" the internet. That was spin that came from Dick Armey's office which the right wing media, naturally, scarfed up without question.

    But he is, after all, a politician, so I can't get too choked up about him. He's merely the agent who happens to be pursuing a course that I want to see pursued right now.

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    PS: Cabernet Communist? What should we call the other side? I can think of a few.

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    Very well worded! Great post! Its just so hard for me to get behind a politician no matter what the stance, I know I will be the one he craps on. But if any thing meaningful is going to be done it is we the people who will have to do it, each of us in our own way to the best of our ability, wether it be energy, the environment or anything else, giving politicians power/authority is like giving a drunken juvenile a loaded gun. As for those of you who pee in the ocean, my God what has the world come to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    PS: Cabernet Communist? What should we call the other side? I can think of a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnP View Post
    While I do not disagree about climate change (I think it happens) I disagree with the assessment that humankind is specifically responsible...
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    Do you think it is possible we (humankind) has over harvested the oceans? Do you think it is possible the use of chemical fertilizers and pestacides on farms along the Missippi River have caused a tremendous dead-zone in the Gulf of Mexico? I think the profound lesson I have learned in my life is that man has the ability and the inconsiderate selfishness to cause serious damage to our environment. Perhaps you dislike the messenger but the message (in my eyes) is clear and true. We have spent enough time at the top of the food chain to eat ourselves out of house and home. We have consumed all and conserved little. What would you suggest is the solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    Conservative?
    My point is that "Cabernet Communists" is a bit shrill. How would you feel if that sort of language was turned on you? Would that be "gentlemanly?" "Communist" is such a byword among some people; should we respond by calling them "Nazis?" Is either really accurate?

    Besides, I see nothing "conservative" about the current crop of Republicans, climate change nay-sayers, and religious social engineers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    How would you feel if that sort of language was turned on you?
    I'd feel pretty, oh so pretty, I'd feel pretty and witty and bright!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    Besides, I see nothing "conservative" about the current crop of Republicans, climate change nay-sayers, and religious social engineers.

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    I don't either. Well I see it in some of the local Republicans here at home and among several religious social engineers (assuming I know what those are), but not generally among Republicans. I don't see it in many Democrats either. I guess those conservatives (me) just aren't very well-represented this time around
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    My point is that "Cabernet Communists" is a bit shrill. How would you feel if that sort of language was turned on you? Would that be "gentlemanly?" "Communist" is such a byword among some people; should we respond by calling them "Nazis?" Is either really accurate?

    Besides, I see nothing "conservative" about the current crop of Republicans, climate change nay-sayers, and religious social engineers.

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    You don't identify with Hoglahoo's statement, do you Jim?

    My mother used to say that if a particular comment or description doesn't fit you, then there is no need to get offended!

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