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    I just moved the talk about democracy / elections to a new thread because it is interesting enough to warrant its own thread, and the original thread will stay on topic.
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    It is also worth noting that there are no data points about buildings collapsing on their own because that has never happened.
    The 3 WTC towers are also by far the largest buildings to ever collapse (or so I was told) so even if there was data on self-collapse (which there isn't) it would be so far out of the known that it would be meaningless.
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    OK,
    I looked at the article. I think it digs a bit hard for evidence to support its assumptions. Looking for the same letters in a moving van company as are in the name "Mossad" is bordering on ridiculous, but the author felt it important to list it. Not sure whether to laugh, or look to the sky in despair that there are professional writers who would believe such things. Perhaps there are interviews with Bin Laden claiming he had nothing to do with the bombings...perhaps he wasn't in the airplane, after all. He is as I understand in the unfortunate position of being the head of the same organization that tried destroying the WTC a previous time, and plans signifying much of how 9-11 happened captured in the possession, as I understand, of lower people in his organization. The part that is most embarrassing, is that it is likely there are people who were saying action needed to be taken against certain individuals, but were no doubt stayed by people higher in the chain who could not bring themselves to believe such a thing would really happen, or that it would happen so soon.
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    John P., the important part is simply that five Israelis knew that 9/11 was going to happen and set up cameras to document the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimensch View Post
    John P., the important part is simply that five Israelis knew that 9/11 was going to happen and set up cameras to document the event.

    Wasn't the first impact recorded only with 1 lousy handycam?
    If it is only the 2nd impact that they shot, then it just means that NYC has a number of mossad agents or sympathizers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Wasn't the first impact recorded only with 1 lousy handycam?
    If it is only the 2nd impact that they shot, then it just means that NYC has a number of mossad agents or sympathizers.
    The Israelis were set up before the first plane but their version was never published because they were arrested shortly afterward, held for a couple of months and then deported.

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    BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Fusion power seeks super steels

    cool article about steel failures during the WTC event.

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    Interesting article, but alas...

    Most of us know that steel becomes pliable way below melting point, but of course the steel in the WTC towers was magic steel that could only be destroyed by high explosives.

    The rebar I use to poke the charcoal of my BBQ can be flattened with a stone if I've left it in the fire for a minute, even though it is not even starting to glow red.
    But that's probably a figment of my own imagination as well. Either that or I've been BBQing with incendiary explosives all along.

    Sadly, conspiracy nuts will still think Elvis did it (and now the British are in on the consipracy as well) , and scientists still think that the scientific explanation is correct.
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    This image from ground zero is not indicative of structural collapse, but of controlled demolition.



    An easy to follow exposé follows HERE. Proceed at a comfortable pace.
    Thank-you for keeping an open mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xman View Post
    This image from ground zero is not indicative of structural collapse, but of controlled demolition.



    An easy to follow exposé follows HERE. Proceed at a comfortable pace.
    Thank-you for keeping an open mind.

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    This link put up by X-man is from a group called Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth. I hope some of you here who are architects or engineers will take an objective look at the body of research this group has put together.

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