Thread: Palin's Choice for VP

Originally Posted by Nord Jim

Hope I've answered your concerns. Mainly, I'd invite you to stop putting words in my mouth.

That part was directed toward other people. You are not the only one commenting in this Nord.

And you are right about Reagan. I meant to say that he was the last Democratic outsider. Reagan was governor of California for 8 years as well as involved with Barry Goldwater and his political campaign. Carter was was a Governor for 1 term before becoming president.

I don't care if someone is an insider or not. I care if someone is going to mess with my negative rights or not. For those who don't know what a negative right is read this. Negative and positive rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Negative rights are ethically superior to positive rights in according to ethicists. I don't think Obama is qualified for the TOP spot and I don't think his modern liberal idealism will respect my negative rights. For me it is that simple.

Originally Posted by The Topher

That part was directed toward other people. You are not the only one commenting in this Nord.

And you are right about Reagan. I meant to say that he was the last Democratic outsider. Reagan was governor of California for 8 years as well as involved with Barry Goldwater and his political campaign. Carter was was a Governor for 1 term before becoming president.

I don't care if someone is an insider or not. I care if someone is going to mess with my negative rights or not. For those who don't know what a negative right is read this. Negative and positive rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Negative rights are ethically superior to positive rights in according to ethicists. I don't think Obama is qualified for the TOP spot and I don't think his modern liberal idealism will respect my negative rights. For me it is that simple.

Why don't you start a thread on this. I think we've hijacked this one long enough (and I'm as guilty of that as anybody). I'd be curious what rights you think Obama will mess with.

j

Speaking about goats, you ever heard one laugh?

Originally Posted by DavidM

Uh....unless I am mistaken, Barak Obama ran for a uncontested senate seat, has never written any significant law..........and two years later he feels qualified to be the PRESIDENT?

Not true. There were others, including the highly regarded previous seat holder. Obama meticulously went through voter records, and had them booted from the election. Remember, she reconsidered, and decided not to step down.

Originally Posted by DavidM

Uh....unless I am mistaken, Barak Obama ran for a uncontested senate seat, has never written any significant law..........and two years later he feels qualified to be the PRESIDENT?

Well... gwb got elected. twice.
So 'experience' and 'capabilities' have long since ceased to matter.

Palin was member of party calling for vote on Alaskan secession from US (see article).

As I was reading the artical the radio was playing in the background and already debunking it
as a hoax.

I will invite you all to join me in voting for Chuck Norris as a write-in candidate this November.


No, seriously. I'm sick of having to choose the lesser of two evils. I'm voting for someone awesome this year, and I would encourage you all to consider it.

Originally Posted by Dicestone

As I was reading the artical the radio was playing in the background and already debunking it
as a hoax.

Is that finger wagging at me? Check out her Wikipedia page:

"Lynnette Clark, the chair of the AIP, told ABC News that current Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, the presumptive 2008 Republican Party nominee for Vice President of the United States, had been a member of the party in the 1990s, and had attended the state party's 1994 convention, a year after party founder and would-be secessionist Joe Vogler died.[6][7] Palin recorded a message welcoming party members to its 2008 convention as part of her duties as Governor of Alaska "

The New York Times also carries the story today. I find it interesting, because it effectively neutralizes another of the right wing's lines of attack against Obama - challenging his patriotism. This is yet another area in which the Palin pick appears to complicate McCain's campaign.

Here's another line of thought. Does anyone think that maybe the candidates are doing their level best to NOT get elected?

The Clinton/Obama run was alternating gaffes by associates on both sides, with alternating "who's on first" polls almost daily or weekly until Obama finally got stuck with the baton.

"A democrat" seemed like a sure thing for president even before McCain got left with the nomination and now his candidacy seems to be generating more gaffes than Hillary did trying to make it into second place so Obama gets handed the dirty stick and gets to take all the blame for the next four years.

I think whoever gets elected is stuck with a serious can of worms and no one really wants the job.

Four more years of more of the same seems safe because the American people (as in "We the People") aren't interested in their supervisory role over the gummint, good bad and/or ugly.

Change is scary. But if Obama thinks he's simply going to redirect the inertia of the bureacracy, he's deluded too.

I think serving the people in congress or the senate or any public office should be like jury duty. The job should be to go to Washington and get the work of the people done and go home. Oh, you say you don't want to go? Well that's the very reason you should. Work hard and we'll let you get out of it. Anybody who wants to go to feather their nest automatically goes to the bottom of the list. This country was founded on dissent and the freedom to dissent when the leadership went astray. When did we give that up?

It was nice knowing you guys, they're going to come after me soon.