Thread: Take down the barbed wire, thieves might get hurt!

No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told | Mail Online

A gardener who fenced off his allotment with barbed wire after being targeted by thieves has been ordered to take it down – in case intruders scratch themselves.

Lee,

You would just love living in England.

We give our burglars a cup of tea when they break into our homes and ask them not to report us to the police in case we are prosecuted for disturbing them.

Yep, we have something like that in my town as well.

I worked for a fence and deck construction company one summer in highschool and I remember someone saying that it had to do with the possibility that an officer might have to chase a thief over the same barbed wire fence.

Though, that's probably an unlikely situation if there's barbed wire to keep thieves out in the first place.

I suppose that falls along the lines of that you can't set a trap for a burglar in your home too.

Hmmmm......sounds like some US homeowners association people moved to Britain. Maybe he should spend a few nights near his shed and if he catches someone...give them the address of some of the council members.

Did you see the comment form the moron in Conn.? Apparently, it is ok for kids to violate others' property, since they are minors. What a load of BS.

This is like the lawsuits in the US where a thief sues the victim for getting injured while committing a crime. Any judge who entertains such nonsense should be removed from the bench.

I think that is why Texas has the Castle Law criminals on your property - if you feel threatened, you can use force (including deadly) to defend yourself. Some argue that you shouldn't use force if you have a chance to flee to safety....not where I grew up. On our property...you're ours.

For other readers - you catch someone breaking into your house. He is not armed.

What do you do?

Wirebeard:
Unless something changed in the last 7 years since I left Colorado, you have an even more open law there.... It was that as soon as an intruder broke the plane of your doorway you could shoot them, period no questions asked...
That was written that way at the time because, if they came in and open door, you could still shoot them.....
The assumption was changed from you had to "feel" threatened, to the assumption that if they came into your home you "were" threatend...

Like I said I left 7 years ago so I am not sure if it is still the same "Make My Day Law" as it was.....

Originally Posted by WireBeard

For other readers - you catch someone breaking into your house. He is not armed.

What do you do?

Tell him he has two choices: leave unscathed and never come back or stick around so I can beat the daylights out of him while the cops are en route.

That story is unbelieveable though. I don't understand how the laws in the UK are supposed to work. You can't have a gun, you can't go to lengths to protect yourself, other people can't protect you, you can't protect your property. What in god's name can you do (besides easily be a criminal)?

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Wirebeard:
Unless something changed in the last 7 years since I left Colorado, you have an even more open law there.... It was that as soon as an intruder broke the plane of your doorway you could shoot them, period no questions asked...
That was written that way at the time because, if they came in and open door, you could still shoot them.....
The assumption was changed from you had to "feel" threatened, to the assumption that if they came into your home you "were" threatend...

Like I said I left 7 years ago so I am not sure if it is still the same "Make My Day Law" as it was.....

I'm sure it's still on the books...b ut we haven't had any incidents in the news. I know in Illinois, when I was a kid, the issue was which way was he facing - coming in or leaving.

I don't have any firearms in the house (no problem with them, just never bought any of my own)...but I do have my U.S. Army NCO Dress Sword...nice and sharp....and that would make better news anyway.

"Colorado Resident involved in "Burglar-kabob" incident"

Years ago in Florida they used to say that if you shot a fellow you needed to drag him inside to make it legal. There was a case thirty or so years ago where a man and his wife came home from an evening out. Upon opening the front door of their apartment a thief barged out and took off running. The husband was carrying and he shot and killed the intruder. Prosecutor Janet Reno charged him with homicide in the 2nd degree and a jury of his peers found him not guilty.

Yeah, the UK does have some pretty crappy laws. Most of them are restrictive and patronising.
I do however support the lack of guns there. Ok, it does restrict some peoples hobbies although it isn't really a major pastime apart from hunting. I would rather nobody have a gun than everybody, even if it does mean the criminal has one and you don't. It is just safer generally.