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    Default This is generating some interesting results for me...

    let's stay on topic please! I really want to hear from as many folks as possible!

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    It's hard for me to say, I can see it either way. I would have to say no. We all know watch the consequences of such a surprise pick, but if she was a man, there wouldn't be a lot of the excitement she was generating before she was a VP candidate. For example there wouldn't be the abortion part, most people wouldn't make much from the hunting - it'd be just some feisty but extremely local-minded governor who would just be undermining the experience message.
    The traditional picks look much better in comparison to that.

    I thought the NYT article was interesting. I'm sure McCain had thought quite a bit about her even if he hadn't spoken with her before that one hour conversation - he knew what he's getting, or he should've.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Ok he didn't meet her before his campaign, and they only met because she was to be his VP.
    They talked for an hour, which means he offered the slot to someone he didn't know before that day, and knew for only an hour.

    Initially I thought his choice was a great move and would gain him a lot.
    But as the dirt start floating to the top, imo she became more of a liablity.
    By now I think he made a fatal mistake with Palin.

    First, to answer the question...if she were a he, I doubt if she, or rather, he would have been chosen. However, I have to agree with Bruno, at first I thought this was a very smart move on McCain's part, but it seems less convincing here lately.

    On the other hand...for all the praise that Obama has been given from the press and the rest of the world, I can't see why this is such a close race. Here we have a crotchety old man and his moronic female sidekick facing off against a man who is supposed to be the answer to our every wish. I mean, if Obama were as wonderful as he was supposed to be according to all these polls, wouldn't he be able to proverbially sell ice water to Eskimos? For all of the talk and all of the political opinions out there, I still say that both candidates fall way short of what our country has to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iron maiden View Post
    First, to answer the question...if she were a he, I doubt if she, or rather, he would have been chosen. However, I have to agree with Bruno, at first I thought this was a very smart move on McCain's part, but it seems less convincing here lately.

    For all of the talk and all of the political opinions out there, I still say that both candidates fall way short of what our country has to offer.

    Amen. It is not the candidates or their platforms, nor the issues that are making this such a tight race. I believe it is the rank and file voters who cannot bear to see their idiot lose to the other teams idiot.
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

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    Not sure...they chose Quayle...and W.

    I thought Palin was picked to:

    - lure independents who were looking at Hillary
    - make it hard for the Dems to bash her (because he is a woman...but, as it turned out, no one complains when you bash the stupid)
    - help the GOP leadership justify those Viagra purchases

    The upside, if she were a male, is she probably would not have those bangs! (Where are the damn scissors?) and the GOP could have saved some $$$ on makeovers and wardrobe.


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    No, she is grossly under qualified, has extremist positions, no man as under qualified as her would ever have been chosen. Compared to Palin, Quayle and Bush are intellectual giants.

    On that same note Larry King had Christopher Hitchens on tonight and he a few things to say about Palin.
    Last edited by Hutch; 10-25-2008 at 02:59 AM.

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    I would have loved to read what Wm. F. Buckley would have said.....

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    I normally don't get too wrapped up in the political threads because, after all, I'm no expert and I like you guys...but I did notice Nun2Sharp's signature about the gov't and it reminded me of a quote by Gerald Ford...a man who, by most accounts, had to remember really hard to breathe...

    "A government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take everything away." -Gerald Ford

    Whomever I vote for, and this has been a tough decision, I'm sure will not be either as bad or as good as they were supposed to be...anyway, regardless of who wins, I'm sure there is a much better person out there who could have done the job...but I'll give the new president a chance because I think our country needs to stand together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iron maiden View Post
    ...but I'll give the new president a chance because I think our country needs to stand together.
    Dave,

    I realize this is an off topic comment on an off topic post but I am curious about this comment. What do you mean that you'll "give the new president a chance"? If you didn't want to give him "a chance", what options are available to you?

    Brad

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    I am afraid mcCain's error of judgement was that women usually do not like women that are better looking than they are themselves.
    Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr.

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