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    Dirty tricks increase as Election Day nears - Making Your Vote Count

    I mean, it's one thing that have a political opinion, but it almost seems as if America is tearing itself to pieces over this election.
    Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
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    Aren't we, as a Western world, fighting all over the globe for the right to fair, transparent, and threat-free elections?

    This kind of thing sickens me to the core.

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    It's always shocking to learn about this sort of thing, but if you keep listening the dim of anti-democratic voices gets louder and more pronounced. Here's a question: Are there any examples of Democrats trying to obstruct the democratic rights of voters? ... Anywhere? This is not a rhetorical question. If anybody has some links, please provide them.

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    My apologies I am not computer savvy, but I remember the last election in St louis, the dems forgot what time the polls closed and left them open in favorable precincts so they could bus in enough supporters with bribes of liqour and cigarettes, until a federal judge issued an order to close the polls, despite everyones shock, this stuff happens all of the time and both parties play their part. As a former Louisiana governor once said, "When I die bury me in Louisiana so I can remain in politics." In some places there are more dead voters than live ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xman View Post
    It's always shocking to learn about this sort of thing, but if you keep listening the dim of anti-democratic voices gets louder and more pronounced. Here's a question: Are there any examples of Democrats trying to obstruct the democratic rights of voters? ... Anywhere? This is not a rhetorical question. If anybody has some links, please provide them.

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    Have you heard of ACORN? just to a google search and you will find all the links you need.

    both sides have their nut jobs.

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    +1 for what Matt said.

    This happens at both sides. It's just that this article pointed the finger at the reps.
    I seem to remember that a study once showed that dems are slightly ahead of the reps in election trickery, looking over multiple elections.

    I meant it is sad that it has to come to this, when people are actively cheating and trying to change the outcome, regardless of rep or dem.
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    "Have you heard of ACORN?"

    The criticism about ACORN pertains to registration, not to voting. If an ACORN rep submits a registration form for "Mickey Mouse", there is no Mickey Mouse who shows up to vote. Also, there are no documented cases of actual voter fraud attributed to any shenanigans by an ACORN rep.

    Look-I understand that the party that's running behind in the polls is relegated to engaging in some questionable campaign tactics as a last resort, but the stuff that's coming out from the Republican side at this point is downright shameful.

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    In Belgium, there is not only a right to vote. Every Belgian older that 18 is legally obligated to present him/herself at the polling station. You can vote void, if you wish to do so, but you must enter the voting booth. While reading the article, I remembered why I am such a strong supporter of our "election duty".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart View Post
    While reading the article, I remembered why I am such a strong supporter of our "election duty".
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    Me too. It's a shame that the protest voters vote for Vlaams Blok but I am a firm believer in the duty to vote.
    My ancestors fought and died in order to have a say in politics (actually, 4 generations ago my Belgian bloodline was very well to do, to say the least, so they probably were not among the downtrodden masses) so I don't think it is too much to ask to show up for 15 minutes every couple of years to determine who gets to run the country.

    The duty to vote was introduced to prevent shenanigans during the election. No mr factory boss demanding that the workers stay away, no preventing people from voting, no closing up the booths ahead of time...

    And that way, the outcome is representative of the actual population and everyone is forced to have an opinion. Of course, they might void their vote, but then that's their way of saying 'I don't care what happens to me'
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    Quote Originally Posted by xman View Post
    It's always shocking to learn about this sort of thing, but if you keep listening the dim of anti-democratic voices gets louder and more pronounced. Here's a question: Are there any examples of Democrats trying to obstruct the democratic rights of voters? ... Anywhere? This is not a rhetorical question. If anybody has some links, please provide them.

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    See the recent Acorn scandal.

    Also much naughtiness by the Chicago Democrat machine when JFK beat Nixon, but (unlike Gore) Nixon was wise enough to let it go.

    Both parties have had their moments.

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