Thread: They banned Christmas!

Originally Posted by Hutch

I agree, attacks on religious holidays are silly. Christmas is as much a secular holiday as a religious holiday.

I think the problem seems to come from the exclusion of other's religious festivities, rather than do away with the Christian holidays, what's the problem with including others? I think the answer should be ours and everyone else's rather than ours or nothing.

Holidays and Beliefs our your own. No one should be involved need to include or not include. What you believe in is for you and no one else to say right or wrong. When people or body's of people find it to intrude on this it is wrong.

Originally Posted by Don

Holidays and Beliefs our your own. No one should be involved need to include or not include. What you believe in is for you and no one else to say right or wrong. When people or body's of people find it to intrude on this it is wrong.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

Are you saying it is wrong to enjoy someone else celebrations, and learn about them?

I have no problem when some wishes me a Merry Christmas, or my Jewish friends wish me a Happy Hanukkah, or my Indian friends wish me Happy Diwali, these are important things to them and they choose to include me I take that as a compliment.

I think the argument is that there are public displays of religious holidays, in North America they are mostly Christian, what is the problem with allowing other religions to have public displays if they wish to have them?

Originally Posted by Hutch

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

Are you saying it is wrong to enjoy someone else celebrations, and learn about them?

I have no problem when some wishes me a Merry Christmas, or my Jewish friends wish me a Happy Hanukkah, or my Indian friends wish me Happy Diwali, these are important things to them and they choose to include me I take that as a compliment.

I think the argument is that there are public displays of religious holidays, in North America they are mostly Christian, what is the problem with allowing other religions to have public displays if they wish to have them?

No what I am saying is you can enjoy what ever you want and so can everyone else. And if someone chooses not to recognize other beliefs that is their free choice. This country was founded in Christianity but it allows all to choose with out persecution from others. Your beliefs are yours

Hutch, you're welcome. It had nothing to do with your ideas and everything to do with the incessant thanking you do around here. I suppose that just makes me a, shudder, conservateur. Yeah, a conservative in French. Dum, dum, dum!

I think the argument is that there are public displays of religious holidays, in North America they are mostly Christian, what is the problem with allowing other religions to have public displays if they wish to have them?

The answer to your question? "In North America they are mostly Christian."

Originally Posted by Whiggamore

Hutch, you're welcome. It had nothing to do with your ideas and everything to do with the incessant thanking you do around here. I suppose that just makes me a, shudder, conservateur. Yeah, a conservative in French. Dum, dum, dum!



The answer to your question? "In North America they are mostly Christian."

I guess its your job to police the thanking, and calling me a "tool" was only about my thanking too often. Considering I have thanked 30 times and you have thanked 35 and I've been here longer and have more post. Who "thanks" too much? More rightwing spin, fast and loose with the truth.

Originally Posted by Hutch

I guess its your job to police the thanking, and calling me a "tool" was only about my thanking too often. Considering I have thanked 30 times and you have thanked 35. More rightwing spin.

Hey, see the badge? They don't hand these out in boxes of cereal.

Had you simply thanked 30 times, that'd be fine. But you did not. You did it with all this complexity, thanking for all the wrong things. Now, I had to thank the people who said my wife looked nice. Then I had to make a point.

But, you're not the Judge. Next time, check the legislation before you go Thanking like crazy. Motherthanker. Honestly, what is happening to our children?

I'll tell you what... they don't pray before class anymore.

Originally Posted by Whiggamore

Hey, see the badge? They don't hand these out in boxes of cereal.

Had you simply thanked 30 times, that'd be fine. But you did not. You did it with all this complexity, thanking for all the wrong things. Now, I had to thank the people who said my wife looked nice. Then I had to make a point.

But, you're not the Judge. Next time, check the legislation before you go Thanking like crazy. Motherthanker. Honestly, what is happening to our children?

I'll tell you what... they don't pray before class anymore.

Which Badge might that be?

And you are the Judge I guess?

Which Legislation would that be?

I guess I'll ask you what the right things are to thank for.

Originally Posted by Whiggamore

Hutch, you're welcome. It had nothing to do with your ideas and everything to do with the incessant thanking you do around here. I suppose that just makes me a, shudder, conservateur. Yeah, a conservative in French. Dum, dum, dum!



The answer to your question? "In North America they are mostly Christian."

Yes in North America they are mostly Christian, that what I said in my post. So what is the problem including others celebrations and symbols, other than the fact many of the religious right feel it will take away from theirs, just like gays getting married somehow effects their marriages.

The religious right were upset with the inclusion of Wiccan on soldiers graves.

Because, in North America they are mostly Christian. Not the celebrations, but the people. Majority rules, man. It isn't fair, but life isn't fair. Same reason why in say, Saudi Arabia, you don't celebrate Christmas.

Or maybe you do. I never went there.

Wiccan symbols on graves? Well, the desecration of Christian cemeteries upsets me, too.

Originally Posted by Whiggamore

Because, in North America they are mostly Christian. Not the celebrations, but the people. Majority rules, man. It isn't fair, but life isn't fair. Same reason why in say, Saudi Arabia, you don't celebrate Christmas.

Or maybe you do. I never went there.

Wiccan symbols on graves? Well, the desecration of Christian cemeteries upsets me, too.

So everyone who isn't a Christian has less rights than you, I see. I'm glad you made your position so clear. The majority are white too, right.

The soldiers give there life so you can enjoy your freedom, but you have no problem trampling on theirs, big of you.