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11-05-2008, 11:17 PM #1
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This is a photograph of Scarlett, my significant other:
She is very happy about the election results. Naturally, I am trying to be happy too. But for me, it is not as deep. In case you don't know, I am a fifty year old white man. I did vote for Obama. I do understand the huge victory for the blacks of the USA. However I am not as enthused as perhaps I might be. Last night when I went to bed I was accused of being apathetic. Well, I guess I may be. To me, this is largely like the Super Bowl and I don't follow sports. I did support Barack Obama but I really don't know how much "change" we will see. I am confident he will work hard for everyone but I don't know how much opposition he may be facing. Okay, that is that "edge". Now let's look at an email I got from the younger sister of Scarlett's very close friend.
The woman who sent this to me is drop dead gorgeous but not too sensitive. While her sister (Scar's friend) was pertty important in the Obama campaign, the author of this message is more interested in the trappings of politics. She likes spotlights and paparazzi and celebrity. She never before acted any way but sexy around me. Today, I was on the distribution list for this message:
"Yes it does feel like the world's greatest holiday!
Obama Day! We are getting in one more hour of work
thus morning then heading out to an Obama Brunch!
Everything is Obama Obama Obama!
Go people! It's on! Now we must all stay united and
step up our game!
Black is on top! Black is first! Our beautiful hero
is in the HOUSE! We win.
Yeah!"
I understand how she feels but I was hurt by the message. I like to think I am pretty liberal in my thinking but I always thought the goal is equality not superiority. I replied to this message with one word, "Ouch". This family is having an inauguration party in January at their home in South Carolina. Scarlett and I are invited but I just told Scar I really don't want to go. Now, Scar is mad at me because I ruined her "big day".
I wish I was my dog Basil. His life is much simpler than mine. Any advice or comments?
Thanks,
Brad
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Bart (11-06-2008)
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11-05-2008, 11:33 PM #2
It will be impossible to fully understand unless you walk in her (the author's) shoes. I am sure Obama has already heard a lot of similar sentiments, and given his past performance, he will work towards unity.
As for the celebration, you should go. Celebrate what it means to you, not what you think it means to others. Show your support for your S.O....not becasue of the election, but becasue she is your S.O.
Obama's victory is, in his own words, for the United States of America....there will always be people who want to put a veil of "payback" on any major social or political change. They are tainting the achievement with a petty emotion, and more's the pity for them.
Rise above it.
Stunning photo, by the way.
Scratch Basil's ears for me.
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icedog (11-05-2008)
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11-05-2008, 11:36 PM #3
i think i understand and sympathize with you here. i will not tell anyone how to act or think when it comes to there race, as i only have point of view ( i am a Metis which is half french half Ojibwe in my case, though my friends constantly tell me how "white" i look). that being said i sometimes here people talk about subjects like this and almost have a reverse-racism (please don't think i am saying your wife is one of these people) where they claim to want equality but really don't. i would never downplay what racism and segregation have done to people in the past, but from my point of view shouldn't we look at situations like this as a positive because of who the guy is first, and then secondly celebrate the fact that the country (and yes i realize i am Canadian but lets be honest, the US has a huge influence and effect on me, so i do pay attention) as a whole is in a place where racism is taking a backseat if any seat to the real issues. i look at Barack Obama as a new type of politician who might actually change some things, and after that a symbol to all minorities rather then just black people. that is just my take though so if anyone is offended (though i'm not sure why they would be) please diregard it.
oh and if i could have i would have voted for Obama, and i did keep up to date with the election (via my satellite radio and some TV coverage) , almost more then my own election that we just had that proved nothing (again just my opinion)
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icedog (11-05-2008)
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11-06-2008, 12:12 AM #4
Go have fun and share in their happiness, it's a milestone, and yes some will take it too far but hey it happens.
I'm sure the euphoria will wear off. I too am a Obama supporter, because he was the best candidate, I could care less if he was purple, green, or orange.
He we'll be everyone's President, if not its only 4 years till the next election, and he's going to set the standard going forward He only became President because the "we" that your sisters friend likes to use included a lot of Hispanics, whites, and people from other cultures. Obama realizes this, even if a few of his supporters don't.
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11-06-2008, 12:19 AM #5
Shes hot buddy! I love that devilish twinkle in her eye, like she's up to something, but I am afraid I cant help you, I cant meddle in an affair of the heart! I will say this much, dont hold her responsible for someone elses actions. Take care!
It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain
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icedog (11-06-2008)
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11-06-2008, 12:26 AM #6
This IS about equality. Black Americans can finally, truly envision themselves the equals of white Americans. This is a triumph for humanity because all our brothers and sisters are finally at the same table. Rejoice, therefore. We are all uplifted.
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icedog (11-06-2008)
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11-06-2008, 12:44 AM #7
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Thanked: 50I didn't read it as a superiority thing. It's just that in the competition for influence in our society, black people have long felt that they aren't even allowed to compete, let alone win.
This time, they competed fair and square, and they won. I don't think they're saying that they have a problem with you winning next time -- especially now that they feel that they can play on an equal footing.
Just my impression. So party hearty.
j
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11-06-2008, 01:29 AM #8
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I am closing this thread as of right now!!!! the Mods will dicuss this and decide whether to re-open it or not
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Update:
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Thank you....Last edited by gssixgun; 11-07-2008 at 08:33 PM.