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    Yes, I'll agree with that. The source I found said that spelling like this was common as the dictionary hadn't been written yet. You'll note when actually reading the document that he spells the same words differently as he goes.

    By the way in the original document there is a list of the actual passengers on the Mayflower . . . very cool stuff.

    So I guess I'm just stuck.

    Mark, what was the original source for all this if not the text itself?

    In the mean time I'm just going to assume that the Pilgrims tested out Socialism and moved to Capitalism, but I remain a tad sceptical.

    Knowing what I know of the Puritans, now I'm very concerned. Out!

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    Let's immortalize the post below, as I find it rather important. Living in the land of Hollywood romanticizing (especially dead) people seems the norm and I am very thankful for the occasional bit of reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by syslight View Post
    Ah but you failed to mention the most important thing... why did they land at Plymouth instead of the original destination of virginia?... they were running low on BEER!

    keep it simple and keep the tap open! thanksgiving is a happy accident caused by running short on the principle liquid of life... please work diligently to prevent further outbreak of religious and political zealotry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedog View Post
    Regardless of the swill Mark is trying to sell, Squanto is the real reason we celebrate Thanksgiving:

    Thanksgiving on the Net - The Pilgrims and America's First Thanksgiving
    I'm always glad when someone so openly enjoys my threads!

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    That would be communism, not socialism.


    This was my very thought when I first read this, but thought I would leave it as it was originally written!

    Quote Originally Posted by AFDavis11 View Post

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    Mark, what was the original source for all this if not the text itself?
    Every year for about the last five years I google Captain William Bradford to read some of his journal entries! The ones that Lee posted and the ones specifically on his feelings about plato and collectivism are the ones I generally read!
    This year I googled as normal and could not find my usual source or for that matter any source other than the one I copied and pasted in full as the opening post to this thread! I found it on some history forum or something similar, saw that I agreed with the post for the most part and just copied and pasted to start this thread!
    Lee helped me to find my usual source, and now I have down loaded it to my computer for future readings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    I'm always glad when someone so openly enjoys my threads!
    You know I just love perusing the threads you initiate Mark. However, I do want to take this moment to give you proper credit, I used the word "Swill" as a tribute to your keen editorial abilities.

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    Oh, dude, that is kinda sad. I Googled the original thesis you pushed forward and did get some interesting hits off of some cool political sites. The whole Bradford/Socialism thing.

    But, now real life calls back again. I'm glad you have so much time on your hands . . .
    there are some pretty wild politcal sites out there you may really enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFDavis11 View Post
    its not called a translation.
    Whatever it's called, Mark's quote is the same content of what Bradford wrote, but in more recognizable English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    Whatever it's called...
    I call it Squantoism.

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    Did someone say "Squanto"?



    You'll also note that Squanto is clean shaven (damn fine BBS by the looks of it), whilst the Pilgrims are sporting full beards. I ask you, who are the real savages here?

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    Good one Craig!

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    Squanto Squanto he's our man!
    If he can't do it no one can!

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