Thread: Behold, the future...No thanks!!

as mentioned is some previous posts with great power comes abuse of great power. i really don't see the benefit other then it is another piece of technology to be put into cars that is not needed. in a perfect world this would be great, i can honestly say i have absolutely nothing to hide. but when i get pulled over by a police officer and fined $110 for a burnt out tail-light that i had no idea of and wasn't previously warned about, this tells me the judgement calls that are being made aren't so good. i'm not saying that i don't appreciate police officers, but everyone that i have come across in my area is on a power trip and looking for a reason to bust me. if anyone here had ever met me you would realize why i get mad about it. i am very easy going, have never been in a fight, i don't speed or drive drunk EVER, and yet it is presumed that i am doing something wrong because i am younger. i don't live in Toronto where police get shot at all the time, i live ina small town where murder is almost non-existent and crime is low. (sorry for the rant, if there are any police officers in here please don't offended)

all the guys i know that went to be cops were the worst partiers who drove drunk all the time. it will be abused in my opinion. sorry for the pessimism.

What does this technology cost the consumer? Will the big 3 need a several billion dollar bailout to implement it? Adding cost to US made cars that no one can afford or wants right now is ludicrous.

Actually they don't need that technology. They have another system where the chase vehicle deploys a drone that rolls under the car they are chasing and it generates an electronic pulse that fries all the electronics in the car and it just stops working. Not quite ready for prime time but very close.

Originally Posted by wescap34

What does this technology cost the consumer? Will the big 3 need a several billion dollar bailout to implement it? Adding cost to US made cars that no one can afford or wants right now is ludicrous.

oh so close... think about the repair bills ... as it is replacing the computer will cost 300 to 900$ without onstar ... what will happen when we need the government control computer replaced?


as for the greater good of society... the less the government does the greater good we will all have!

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Actually they don't need that technology. They have another system where the chase vehicle deploys a drone that rolls under the car they are chasing and it generates an electronic pulse that fries all the electronics in the car and it just stops working. Not quite ready for prime time but very close.

I've seen it in action on national geographic. It is was a very neat way to stop a car.
The onyl problem was that it only works on modern cars with electronic combustion triggering.
If the core systems are purely electric or mechanical, it doesn't work.

Originally Posted by Bruno

I've seen it in action on national geographic. It is was a very neat way to stop a car.
The only problem was that it only works on modern cars with electronic combustion triggering.
If the core systems are purely electric or mechanical, it doesn't work.

um, how many old car you driving around there Bruno? most cars since the late 1980's have been computer controlled , electronic ignition setups.

i have a few but then I'm anti-establishment!

Originally Posted by syslight

I thought we covered this one once before.. but i did not see it in the search. the onstar system keeps me from buying another GM product and the technology has been available ever since onstar first came out. By the way any one notice that the government is about to buy the auto makers? just think have great this will be when they have it set so that your car is designed to only go up to the speed limit... and the police will be able to stop you from their car, maybe to "check your travel papers" at will. Oh happy day!

nope I'm not a conspiracy theorist just analyzing the trends

I could see it happening.

Originally Posted by JMS

The technology is neat,I'll give you that, and the benefits could be great, assuming your dealing with a benign government! Not an assumption I am willing to make!

Exactly.

The government only has the right to regulate your use on the roads. when you are on private property the government has no right whatsoever to control your vehicles use, without the express consent of the property owner.

This gives remote control to whomever manages to hack the system, it could be the government controlling your car, or possibly not. Think about that for a bit, electronic linked ability to shut down any car through a computer network, and you all though e-mail worms were bad.

It seems like a big selling point of this technology is it can only be activated by the owner (once it’s stolen) to Onstar, but what if the vehicles’ owner is the one breaking the law? Does that mean that local law enforcement contacts Onstar and they shut it down? – sounds like they just lost that marketing aspect…

Originally Posted by RareBreed

It seems like a big selling point of this technology is it can only be activated by the owner (once it’s stolen) to Onstar, but what if the vehicles’ owner is the one breaking the law? Does that mean that local law enforcement contacts Onstar and they shut it down? – sounds like they just lost that marketing aspect…

It wont be a marketing gimmick, it will be legislated for your own good, just like seatbelts, airbags and cameras at intersections, it will help you to stay honest! Why wouldnt you want it, dont you wish to be safe? They are only trying to help!
BTW They couldve done away with chases a long time ago, if only they would learn to use their radios rather than adrenaline!