Thread: Stem cell research...

Guys, please keep the discussion civil!

And try to keep it a bit on topic. This was not a discussion on abortion in general, but stem cell research.

Originally Posted by Bruno

Guys, please keep the discussion civil!

And try to keep it a bit on topic. This was not a discussion on abortion in general, but stem cell research.

It's really impossible to separate the two as the ban on fetal stem cell research is directly connected to the pro-life movement and anti-abortion.

What's with all the civility comments I personally have not seen anything uncivil from either side. As it comes after my post please let me know what is uncivil in anything that I have written so I can avoid offending anyone.

Originally Posted by Hutch

It's really impossible to separate the two as the ban on fetal stem cell research is directly connected to the pro-life movement and anti-abortion.

What's with all the civility comments I personally have not seen anything uncivil from either side. As it comes after my post please let me know what is uncivil in anything that I have written so I can avoid offending anyone.

I think he was referring to my post and the negative rep I received for this thread!

JMS it was not I, I take no offense from anything that you have said. I disagree with you, but that is the nature of the world. As I'm pro-choice I defend your right to choose different from me. I think you know that if I had an issue I'd be more than willing to take it up with you.

Originally Posted by Hutch

JMS it was not I, I take no offense from anything that you have said. I disagree with you, but that is the nature of the world. As I'm pro-choice I defend your right to choose different from me. I think you know that if I had an issue I'd be more than willing to take it up with you.

Ditto.

j

The discussion was on stem cell research, not abortion.As utopian explained, they are not linked necessarily, as the majority of the stem cells comes from embryos (instead of developed fetuses).

The last n posts are all about abortion, religion and right to live / choose and people are working themselves up to a heated argument. That is uncivil because Mark already asked to keep the discussion on topic. Instead, people take the opportunity to jump on their high horse or soap box.

I've split off a number of abortion posts to this new thread:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/conve...-research.html
Where you can continue the abortion tangent.
But let's keep this thread on the topic of stem cell research.

Originally Posted by Bruno

The discussion was on stem cell research, not abortion. As utopian explained, they are not linked necessarily, as the majority of the stem cells comes from embryos (instead of developed fetuses).

The political factions in the U.S. who opposed stem cell research do not differentiate between the two. As soon as an egg is fertilized, it is considered to be a human being. In other words, a day-old embryo is considered to be the same thing as a fetus.

j

Hmmmm...
Stem cell research: huge technology leap that has the potential to save lives.

Abortion: none of my business. I'm not a woman so it's not my place whether or not a woman should have one. If a woman is raped and wants to abort the baby, that's fine. If a woman hears that the baby is going to have some type of deformity and chooses to not have that child, her choice. but let me say this, i don't feel that abortion should be a form of birth control (like the pill). if a woman is in the clinic so much they know her name, she's irresponsible and needs to have her uterus removed. now i know someone is going to say, "but why doesn't she just give the child up for adoption?" Sure that's a great idea, just as soon as we get all those kids that are already in the system into homes and make space for them, not to mention the cost, we'll just re-backlog that system, great idea. here's a thought for all of the pro-life people out there: if i force my will on a woman's "sacred area", that's rape. Telling a woman that she can't do with her "sacred area" as she pleases is forcing YOUR will on HER body. Keep your will to yourself.

I'm very interested in the leaps they've made in non-embryonic stem cell research. I read an article about researchers being able to take fat from a woman who has had to remove her breasts due to cancer and extract stems cells which allowed her to regrow her breasts. Cancer's gone, new boobs, and lipo- what's there to dislike in this situation?

It's exciting to me to live in this era of amazing research. I feel confident that stem cells soon will be harvested as easily and uncontroversially as giving blood. Breakthroughs such as the one in the article I mentioned are hopefully just the beginning. If I understand it correctly, there's a chance that many problems that face us will be a thing of the past. Of course, it stands to introduce a lot of problems too, but I'm still excited to see where this technology goes.

Originally Posted by Quick Orange

I'm very interested in the leaps they've made in non-embryonic stem cell research. I read an article about researchers being able to take fat from a woman who has had to remove her breasts due to cancer and extract stems cells which allowed her to regrow her breasts. Cancer's gone, new boobs, and lipo- what's there to dislike in this situation?

New boobs are okay in my book.