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    Interesting discussion! I too have isues with the Christian/Catholic thing. Many assume it is the same thing, many during the Reformation were burned at the stake for thinking there was any difference.

    Where the rules apply in today's world is what separates many from religion itself. If one believes, the rules are, well, the rules!
    You don't change them because it is too hard to follow or because it is not popular. One can be tolerant of others though. My religions rules are my rules. What others do is their concern but I must do what I must do.

    Englishgent has his rules and if family members want different rules that is their choice, but his choice has been made for him, IF he chooses to believe. It is a struggle in any religion, in the more strict it is even harder. The Orthodox Jews, the Amish, etc... have very strict beliefs, many directly from the bible as God's law, many from their own design in order to preserve the group. I'm not familiar with that many religions but will say that the Amish, the Mennonites and the Catholics are pretty strict too about marrying inside their own faith. Not just Orthodox Jews.

    Even though the world is changing as Maurey pointed out many religions consider they are in this world, but not of this world and have other rules that must be obeyed above all else as part of their faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xman View Post
    Since we're differentiating now, maybe its time for some levity; God Trumps | New Humanist

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    I am a Christian and the way I see it is that I really hope my kids marry other christians (when that time comes, haven't even got a SWMBO yet)
    I have my rules that I follow, but I don't believe those rules should be forced on to other people. And anyway the right order is: belong, believe, behave. That is one of the main reasons christians are disliked quite often in my opinion, they want everyone to behave and believe before they accept them (belong)

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    Brilliant! That's one of the reasons that I dislike Organized Religion. Because they make you behave first, then they make sure you believe, then they let you belong. I think that you sum up the proper way very well with the "belong, believe, behave " slogan. Mind if I steal it?

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    Go ahead, it isn't mine anyway
    I stole it

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    Sweet thanks!

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